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All Blacks v Argentina II

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  • jimmybJ jimmyb

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

    Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

    Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

    Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

    At least give him a go to find out

    He’s been in the leadership group for 8-9 years. He frequently finishes the match as captain. He clearly doesn’t make much of a difference. Different voices are needed ASAP. The old heads are not going to do it

    Like last week when he finished as captain and we dominated the last 20 minutes?

    All the countless times he’s been part of a a complete cluster fuck. What I’m saying is that the current leadership group we’ve had since 2019 is shit. We need new voices in it.

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    @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    Also, SBarret is not an AB captains asshole. Should never have made him captain when it wasn't even clear he was the best lock in the country. Stupid decision.

    Who’s the captain then? It’s definitely not Savea. He doesn’t have the leadership skills either

    Did you not watch Super Rugby this year. Ardie single handedly turned Moana into a proper team.

    Yes, one season of over zealous passion doesn’t equate to international leadership skills

    At least give him a go to find out

    He’s been in the leadership group for 8-9 years. He frequently finishes the match as captain. He clearly doesn’t make much of a difference. Different voices are needed ASAP. The old heads are not going to do it

    Like last week when he finished as captain and we dominated the last 20 minutes?

    All the countless times he’s been part of a a complete cluster fuck. What I’m saying is that the current leadership group we’ve had since 2019 is shit. We need new voices in it.

    I hear you. But I'm talking in the short term we'd be better with Ardie than Scott Barrett

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      Frank
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      All these suggested changes are a bit late - lol

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      • K kidcalder

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        We are stuck with Razor til 2027 regardless of results. Time to accept it.

        Yip easier to change his staff Ala fossie
        Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

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        @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

        Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

          Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

          Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023

          Please summarize why.

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

            Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023

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            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

            Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023

            Old school?

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              We are stuck with Razor til 2027 regardless of results. Time to accept it.

              Yip easier to change his staff Ala fossie
              Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

              Schmidt is tied to Aus. That ship has sailed.

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              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              We are stuck with Razor til 2027 regardless of results. Time to accept it.

              Yip easier to change his staff Ala fossie
              Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.

              Schmidt is tied to Aus. That ship has sailed.

              Regardless, he doesn’t want to work with Razor. They had a summit when Fozzie almost got rolled, and that was one of the outcomes (apparently)

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                Canes4life
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                Change the coach. Give Jamie Joseph the job.

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                  kidcalder
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                  #842

                  Scott Barrett was a brilliant lock...but captaincy doesn't always suit players... added mental pressure on someone that maybe is showing it isn't for him.

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                    stodders
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                    They made Fozzie sack his assistants (albeit from a worse position after a series loss to Ireland). Maybe the NZRU need to have a word with Razor about his assistant coaches now.

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                    • S stodders

                      They made Fozzie sack his assistants (albeit from a worse position after a series loss to Ireland). Maybe the NZRU need to have a word with Razor about his assistant coaches now.

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                      @stodders said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      They made Fozzie sack his assistants (albeit from a worse position after a series loss to Ireland). Maybe the NZRU need to have a word with Razor about his assistant coaches now.

                      Nail head

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                        reprobate
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                        Well beaten by a better side who played almost all the rugby.
                        Positives: Newell was good, and... ah I guess we make that 'positive' singular.
                        Negatives: hopeless in the air, terrible discipline, poor tactics, no leadership, shit goal-kicking.

                        MOTM Matera, what a champ.

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                          KiwiMurph
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                          Razor is going to start his own Eden Park streak

                          2 losses in one month at the Garden

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            Change the coach. Give Jamie Joseph the job.

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                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            Change the coach. Give Jamie Joseph the job.

                            Time to stop hiring NZers and go international. Is David Nucifora still coaching?

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                              Frank
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                              Sititi to be captain.

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                                BerniesCorner
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                                Last 20 minutes was terrible.
                                Panicking, no leadership, brain farts.

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                                • FrankF Frank

                                  Sititi to be captain.

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                                  @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  Sititi to be captain.

                                  I hear you bro

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                                    Darth Sader
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                                    I had a lot of hope for Razor, but honestly we’re lacking the basic structure that someone like Schmidt brings. Our play may have been more conservative under someone like that, but we’d have better fundamentals. He’s blooded a few new players, but essentially playing the same team/plan as Foster. Very disappointed with the lack of progression. Some areas have gone backwards.

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                                      The Scott Robertson honeymoon is well and truly over.

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                                      • S stodders

                                        They made Fozzie sack his assistants (albeit from a worse position after a series loss to Ireland). Maybe the NZRU need to have a word with Razor about his assistant coaches now.

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                                        @stodders said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        They made Fozzie sack his assistants (albeit from a worse position after a series loss to Ireland). Maybe the NZRU need to have a word with Razor about his assistant coaches now.

                                        I actually wonder did Razor sack the wrong coach when he dumped Rangi MacDonald, I strongly suspect that the problem maybe in the back coaches we got?

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                          Hope Ratima, Hotham and Roigard are back soon or with another injury we are in real poo at 9

                                          Ratima can take his time.....

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                          Hope Ratima, Hotham and Roigard are back soon or with another injury we are in real poo at 9

                                          Ratima can take his time.....

                                          Ratima’s kicking awful.

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