All Blacks v Argentina II
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Well beaten by a better side who played almost all the rugby.
Positives: Newell was good, and... ah I guess we make that 'positive' singular.
Negatives: hopeless in the air, terrible discipline, poor tactics, no leadership, shit goal-kicking.MOTM Matera, what a champ.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Change the coach. Give Jamie Joseph the job.
Time to stop hiring NZers and go international. Is David Nucifora still coaching?
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Last 20 minutes was terrible.
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I had a lot of hope for Razor, but honestly we’re lacking the basic structure that someone like Schmidt brings. Our play may have been more conservative under someone like that, but we’d have better fundamentals. He’s blooded a few new players, but essentially playing the same team/plan as Foster. Very disappointed with the lack of progression. Some areas have gone backwards.
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@stodders said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They made Fozzie sack his assistants (albeit from a worse position after a series loss to Ireland). Maybe the NZRU need to have a word with Razor about his assistant coaches now.
I actually wonder did Razor sack the wrong coach when he dumped Rangi MacDonald, I strongly suspect that the problem maybe in the back coaches we got?
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Hope Ratima, Hotham and Roigard are back soon or with another injury we are in real poo at 9
Ratima can take his time.....
Ratima’s kicking awful.
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@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I had a lot of hope for Razor, but honestly we’re lacking the basic structure that someone like Schmidt brings. Our play may have been more conservative under someone like that, but we’d have better fundamentals. He’s blooded a few new players, but essentially playing the same team/plan as Foster. Very disappointed with the lack of progression. Some areas have gone backwards.
This looked like the worst of the foster era today
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@stodders said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
They made Fozzie sack his assistants (albeit from a worse position after a series loss to Ireland). Maybe the NZRU need to have a word with Razor about his assistant coaches now.
I actually wonder did Razor sack the wrong coach when he dumped Rangi MacDonald, I strongly suspect that the problem maybe in the back coaches we got?
He didn’t dump him, Leon walked. Tbh I was surprised he was there in the first place, as they’d fallen out previously
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To be fair losing in Argentina was always going to happen... we have gotten out of jail over there many times since I can remember. And they have already beaten us in nz which is a bigger milestone for them.
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@stodders said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.
Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023
Old school?
NZR's relationship with the players was not good to put it mildly - money and marketing came before almost anything else.. And the treatment of the team management was simply appalling. Schmidt clearly had had enough.
Might to a mini book review and post it somewhere.
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Last 20 minutes was terrible.
Panicking, no leadership, brain farts.I thought it was more they didn’t execute the basics well enough. They had field position, then didn’t win the lineout. Relieved pressure. When it went 26-20, they just needed to settle, kick for territory and squeeze the Pumas into a mistake (which they were making).
As it was, their exits were poor and they compounded that with yet another YC. One YC in a game is bad. But three!!! ABs may be the most carded team right now, but they have earned the reputation. Got to own it now and stop doing stupid shit. Hit lower, don’t change your line, don’t flap at the ball on your goal line!
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@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Jeez fellas. Where the fuck do we go from here?
We are in trouble and could lose every RC game from here on unless we make changes.
What exactly should those changes be?
New wingers Carter,Clarke if he's fit,a change at Reserve hooker McAlister in the 23 change the First five D Mac starts and a new mid fielder,Tupea,
Sitii starting at 8,Savea to the bench, better playing Kirifi.
And organise a more direct game plan.
