All Blacks v Argentina II
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@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
All these suggested changes are a bit late - lol
never too later the alternative carry on regardless makes no sense that for the same results.
Have to be brave somewhere next year it is too late. -
Julian Savea had 54 caps.
Rieko has 83.
ALB is on 86.
Another season and these two jokers are centurions.
This is the rot im talking about.
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Forwards are fine, 3 blokes in the backs need to retire.
Captaincy change is essential.
SB is a fine lock.@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Forwards are fine, 3 blokes in the backs need to retire.
Captaincy change is essential.
SB is a fine lock.So you are going to drop your most potent attacking weapon in Jordan stupid.
The back 3 did have bad games some of that comes from idiots in front of them not controlling the game. -
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
All these suggested changes are a bit late - lol
never too later the alternative carry on regardless makes no sense that for the same results.
Have to be brave somewhere next year it is too late.@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
All these suggested changes are a bit late - lol
never too later the alternative carry on regardless makes no sense that for the same results.
Have to be brave somewhere next year it is too late.For sure, my point being Razor's conservatism got us into this predicament in the first place.
The lack of courage not to play Carter or Preston being two examples.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
All these suggested changes are a bit late - lol
never too later the alternative carry on regardless makes no sense that for the same results.
Have to be brave somewhere next year it is too late.For sure, my point being Razor's conservatism got us into this predicament in the first place.
The lack of courage not to play Carter or Preston being two examples.
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
All these suggested changes are a bit late - lol
never too later the alternative carry on regardless makes no sense that for the same results.
Have to be brave somewhere next year it is too late.For sure, my point being Razor's conservatism got us into this predicament in the first place.
The lack of courage not to play Carter or Preston being two examples.
NO argument it is frustrating me as well,Hansen has a love affair with BB ,Jordie and Reiko so they will not get dropped.
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@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
All these suggested changes are a bit late - lol
never too later the alternative carry on regardless makes no sense that for the same results.
Have to be brave somewhere next year it is too late.For sure, my point being Razor's conservatism got us into this predicament in the first place.
The lack of courage not to play Carter or Preston being two examples.
NO argument it is frustrating me as well,Hansen has a love affair with BB ,Jordie and Reiko so they will not get dropped.
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
All these suggested changes are a bit late - lol
never too later the alternative carry on regardless makes no sense that for the same results.
Have to be brave somewhere next year it is too late.For sure, my point being Razor's conservatism got us into this predicament in the first place.
The lack of courage not to play Carter or Preston being two examples.
NO argument it is frustrating me as well,Hanson has a love affair with BB ,Jordie and Reiko so they will not get dropped.
Then drop Hansen as coach
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@Jet said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Julian Savea had 54 caps.
Rieko has 83.
ALB is on 86.
Another season and these two jokers are centurions.
This is the rot im talking about.
And the irony is it was Rieko who replaced Savea.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Jet said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Julian Savea had 54 caps.
Rieko has 83.
ALB is on 86.
Another season and these two jokers are centurions.
This is the rot im talking about.
And the irony is it was Rieko who replaced Savea.
At least Reiko WAS great.
No disrespect but a guy like ALB should be no where near 50 let alone 100 caps.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
All these suggested changes are a bit late - lol
never too later the alternative carry on regardless makes no sense that for the same results.
Have to be brave somewhere next year it is too late.For sure, my point being Razor's conservatism got us into this predicament in the first place.
The lack of courage not to play Carter or Preston being two examples.
NO argument it is frustrating me as well,Hanson has a love affair with BB ,Jordie and Reiko so they will not get dropped.
Then drop Hansen as coach
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
All these suggested changes are a bit late - lol
never too later the alternative carry on regardless makes no sense that for the same results.
Have to be brave somewhere next year it is too late.For sure, my point being Razor's conservatism got us into this predicament in the first place.
The lack of courage not to play Carter or Preston being two examples.
NO argument it is frustrating me as well,Hanson has a love affair with BB ,Jordie and Reiko so they will not get dropped.
Then drop Hansen as coach
I can't can I ?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.
Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023
Please summarize why.
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@kidcalder said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Bring in Schmitt after RC he is available then.
Read Foster's book and you'll begin to understand why Schmidt wanted nothing to do with the AB's after RWC2023
Please summarize why.
NZR and the Commercial arm of the All Blacks are a shit show currently, pretty much
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Forwards are fine, 3 blokes in the backs need to retire.
Captaincy change is essential.
SB is a fine lock.So you are going to drop your most potent attacking weapon in Jordan stupid.
The back 3 did have bad games some of that comes from idiots in front of them not controlling the game.@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Forwards are fine, 3 blokes in the backs need to retire.
Captaincy change is essential.
SB is a fine lock.So you are going to drop your most potent attacking weapon in Jordan stupid.
The back 3 did have bad games some of that comes from idiots in front of them not controlling the game.Please read that again
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
All these suggested changes are a bit late - lol
never too later the alternative carry on regardless makes no sense that for the same results.
Have to be brave somewhere next year it is too late.For sure, my point being Razor's conservatism got us into this predicament in the first place.
The lack of courage not to play Carter or Preston being two examples.
NO argument it is frustrating me as well,Hanson has a love affair with BB ,Jordie and Reiko so they will not get dropped.
Then drop Hansen as coach
I can't can I ?
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
All these suggested changes are a bit late - lol
never too later the alternative carry on regardless makes no sense that for the same results.
Have to be brave somewhere next year it is too late.For sure, my point being Razor's conservatism got us into this predicament in the first place.
The lack of courage not to play Carter or Preston being two examples.
NO argument it is frustrating me as well,Hanson has a love affair with BB ,Jordie and Reiko so they will not get dropped.
Then drop Hansen as coach
I can't can I ?
Sure you can Razor
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
All these suggested changes are a bit late - lol
never too later the alternative carry on regardless makes no sense that for the same results.
Have to be brave somewhere next year it is too late.For sure, my point being Razor's conservatism got us into this predicament in the first place.
The lack of courage not to play Carter or Preston being two examples.
NO argument it is frustrating me as well,Hanson has a love affair with BB ,Jordie and Reiko so they will not get dropped.
Then drop Hansen as coach
I can't can I ?
Sure you can Razor
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
All these suggested changes are a bit late - lol
never too later the alternative carry on regardless makes no sense that for the same results.
Have to be brave somewhere next year it is too late.For sure, my point being Razor's conservatism got us into this predicament in the first place.
The lack of courage not to play Carter or Preston being two examples.
NO argument it is frustrating me as well,Hanson has a love affair with BB ,Jordie and Reiko so they will not get dropped.
Then drop Hansen as coach
I can't can I ?
Sure you can Razor
if only
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Forwards are fine, 3 blokes in the backs need to retire.
Captaincy change is essential.
SB is a fine lock.So you are going to drop your most potent attacking weapon in Jordan stupid.
The back 3 did have bad games some of that comes from idiots in front of them not controlling the game.Please read that again
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Forwards are fine, 3 blokes in the backs need to retire.
Captaincy change is essential.
SB is a fine lock.So you are going to drop your most potent attacking weapon in Jordan stupid.
The back 3 did have bad games some of that comes from idiots in front of them not controlling the game.Please read that again
Sorry my misread .
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I had a lot of hope for Razor, but honestly we’re lacking the basic structure that someone like Schmidt brings. Our play may have been more conservative under someone like that, but we’d have better fundamentals. He’s blooded a few new players, but essentially playing the same team/plan as Foster. Very disappointed with the lack of progression. Some areas have gone backwards.
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I had a lot of hope for Razor, but honestly we’re lacking the basic structure that someone like Schmidt brings. Our play may have been more conservative under someone like that, but we’d have better fundamentals. He’s blooded a few new players, but essentially playing the same team/plan as Foster. Very disappointed with the lack of progression. Some areas have gone backwards.
Its the shoulder shrugging and hand waving away after defeats thats get me.
There should be consequences.
Drop 6 or 7 of them if you have to.
Sack a coach.
Drop an F Bomb in a press conference.
It doesnt look like it hurts them like it hurts us (or at least it used to).
And we dont have any vultures in the media holding their feet to the fire.
Kirst and Beav?
Wilson Mils and Angus?
Bryn Hall and Parsons?
Do me a favour....all pally pally.
You get better opinions on our game from non NZ sources such as Keo and Zels on SA Rugby.
Even on here tonight.....people arent angry enough. It's becoming normal. Its fucking unacceptable.
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@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I had a lot of hope for Razor, but honestly we’re lacking the basic structure that someone like Schmidt brings. Our play may have been more conservative under someone like that, but we’d have better fundamentals. He’s blooded a few new players, but essentially playing the same team/plan as Foster. Very disappointed with the lack of progression. Some areas have gone backwards.
Its the shoulder shrugging and hand waving away after defeats thats get me.
There should be consequences.
Drop 6 or 7 of them if you have to.
Sack a coach.
Drop an F Bomb in a press conference.
It doesnt look like it hurts them like it hurts us (or at least it used to).
And we dont have any vultures in the media holding their feet to the fire.
Kirst and Beav?
Wilson Mils and Angus?
Bryn Hall and Parsons?
Do me a favour....all pally pally.
You get better opinions on our game from non NZ sources such as Keo and Zels on SA Rugby.
Even on here tonight.....people arent angry enough. It's becoming normal. Its fucking unacceptable.
@Jet Too many cheerleaders and former players in the NZ media and not enough actual journalists.
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@Jet Too many cheerleaders and former players in the NZ media and not enough actual journalists.
@His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Jet Too many cheerleaders and former players in the NZ media and not enough actual journalists.
Im fucking seething.
This isnt a watershed moment.
It's the culmination of years of mismanagement, fear, protectionism, favouritism and incompetence.
Wouldn't be surprised if Adidas and Altrad walked in the next few years.
This aint a wagon to hitch your horse to.
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If I got the gig tomorrow id drop Beauden, ALB Rieko and Reece from the squad.
Id strip Scooter of the captaincy and give it to Ardie as a caretaker pending a long termer putting their hand up.
Id inject some effervescence into the backs with Roigard/Love at 9/10, Carter on a wing, Tangitau once fit on the other.Tupea or Tavatavanawai to 12, with Jordie to 15 and Jordan to the wing if needs be.
We need legs.
Happy to have Love at 10/15, Jordie at 12 or 15 and Jordan at 14 or 15 as required.
Can accept DMAC at 10 but want Beaudy gone forever. Tonight was appalling.
