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    Has the TNW signing be confirmed? I thought the media were just expecting him to re-sign? Can't find it on Chiefs website.

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      You'd think they'd be looking at Joe Tupe for 8/6.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        Has the TNW signing be confirmed? I thought the media were just expecting him to re-sign? Can't find it on Chiefs website.

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        @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2017:

        Has the TNW signing be confirmed? I thought the media were just expecting him to re-sign? Can't find it on Chiefs website.

        http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/85378694

        You are correct. The headline of the article says he has re-signed but the first line says it is only 'believed'

        I'll leave him in there at the moment though as these rumours are usually true if they have gone so far as to make it to print.

        Messam returning is still just a rumour as far as I know.

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          @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2017:

          Has the TNW signing be confirmed? I thought the media were just expecting him to re-sign? Can't find it on Chiefs website.

          http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/85378694

          You are correct. The headline of the article says he has re-signed but the first line says it is only 'believed'

          I'll leave him in there at the moment though as these rumours are usually true if they have gone so far as to make it to print.

          Messam returning is still just a rumour as far as I know.

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          @Crucial said in Chiefs 2017:

          Messam returning is still just a rumour as far as I know.

          It was always signalled that Messam would return after his stint in Japan so I'd say that is more probable than possible.

          As for the 3rd halfback, Pele Cowley was actually in the squad as Pulu's replacement before Hammington. Cowley then got injured himself.

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            Sam Cane is in there twice?

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              Sam Cane is in there twice?

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              @Milk said in Chiefs 2017:

              Sam Cane is in there twice?

              Yes. Because he is awesome.

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                @Milk said in Chiefs 2017:

                Sam Cane is in there twice?

                Yes. Because he is awesome.

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                @Crucial Makes sense. He'll have a big workload next year, twice the work of some lesser players.

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                  johan has gone to japan

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                    johan has gone to japan

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                    @Cpt-Kumera said in Chiefs 2017:

                    johan has gone to japan

                    Is it an 'off-season' thing though? As far as I can tell he is still contracted to the Chiefs.

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                      @Cpt-Kumera said in Chiefs 2017:

                      johan has gone to japan

                      Is it an 'off-season' thing though? As far as I can tell he is still contracted to the Chiefs.

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                      @Crucial said in Chiefs 2017:

                      @Cpt-Kumera said in Chiefs 2017:

                      johan has gone to japan

                      Is it an 'off-season' thing though? As far as I can tell he is still contracted to the Chiefs.

                      Yes, signed through to 2017.

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                        Wow! Didn't realise SBW had gone to the Blues

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                          Wow! Didn't realise SBW had gone to the Blues

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                          @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2017:

                          Wow! Didn't realise SBW had gone to the Blues

                          Just hand them the title now I reckon. After that I have it on good authority that SBW is heading to the Canes then the Highlanders to become the only player to grace all five franchises with his presence.

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                            You'd think they'd be looking at Joe Tupe for 8/6.

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                            @Tim said in Chiefs 2017:

                            You'd think they'd be looking at Joe Tupe for 8/6.

                            they fucking better be

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                              Hammington has signed with the Highlanders. He has a good relationship with Rennie so you'd think he was given the heads up on plans for a third halfback.

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                                They need a third hooker. Faiva is the probable one but I like the young Misa who is an outstanding off the bench option. Reilly (Bay of Plenty) has a good season too.

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                                  They need a third hooker. Faiva is the probable one but I like the young Misa who is an outstanding off the bench option. Reilly (Bay of Plenty) has a good season too.

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                                  @cgrant said in Chiefs 2017:

                                  They need a third hooker. Faiva is the probable one but I like the young Misa who is an outstanding off the bench option. Reilly (Bay of Plenty) has a good season too.

                                  Given that is is unlikely they will have a big name third hooker I would say the third spot will be a WTG one (and probably one other in the training squad as well). They will probably be looking at potential and succession planning.

                                  These were the players named in the Development squad early in the year

                                  Joseph Royal (BOP)
                                  Epalahame Faiva (W)
                                  Steven Misa (W)

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                                    Probably time to start up the squad threads as signing news starts filtering in...

                                    I have taken the Wiki list as a starter. Please add info as it comes to hand

                                    PROPS
                                    Gone:
                                    Pauliasi Manu (to Blues)
                                    Confirmed:
                                    Kane Hames
                                    Nepo Laulala
                                    Atunaisa Moli

                                    2016 others
                                    Siegfried Fisiihoi (wider training group)
                                    Mitchell Graham
                                    Siate Tokolahi
                                    Hiroshi Yamashita

                                    HOOKERS
                                    Gone:
                                    Rhys Marshall (to Ireland Munster)
                                    Confirmed:
                                    Hika Elliot
                                    Nathan Harris

                                    LOCK
                                    Confirmed:
                                    Michael Allardice
                                    Dominic Bird
                                    Brodie Retallick

                                    2016 Others
                                    James Tucker (wider training group)

                                    LOOSE FORWARDS
                                    Confirmed
                                    Johan Bardoul
                                    Sam Cane
                                    Mitchell Karpik

                                    2016 Others
                                    Lachlan Boshier
                                    Sam Cane
                                    Sam Henwood
                                    Mitchell Karpik
                                    Tevita Koloamatangi
                                    Liam Messam
                                    Tom Sanders
                                    Taleni Seu

                                    N8
                                    Gone
                                    Ma'ama Vaipulu (to France Castres)
                                    Confirmed
                                    none
                                    2016 Others
                                    Mitchell Brown (short-term)
                                    Michael Leitch

                                    HALFBACK
                                    Gone
                                    Augustine Pulu (to Blues)
                                    Confirmed
                                    Tawera Kerr-Barlow
                                    Brad Weber

                                    2016 Others
                                    Kayne Hammington (short-term)

                                    FIRST FIVE
                                    Gone
                                    None
                                    Confirmed
                                    Aaron Cruden
                                    2016 Others
                                    Stephen Donald

                                    MIDFIELD
                                    Gone
                                    Seta Tamanivalu (to Crusaders)
                                    Substituted off Sonny Bill Williams (to Blues)
                                    Confirmed
                                    Anton Lienert-Brown
                                    Charlie Ngatai

                                    2016 Others
                                    Sam Vaka (wider training group)

                                    OUTSIDE BACKS
                                    Gone
                                    Andrew Horrell (to Japan Coca-Cola Red Sparks)
                                    Confirmed
                                    Glen Fisiiahi
                                    James Lowe
                                    Toni Pulu
                                    Tim Nanai-Williams
                                    Damian McKenzie

                                    2016 Others
                                    Shaun Stevenson (wider training group)
                                    Chase Tiatia (did not play)
                                    Latu Vaeno (wider training group)
                                    Sam McNicol

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                                    Messam and TNW are confirmed.

                                    http://www.chiefs.co.nz/news/news/latest-news/266-two-of-the-chiefs-favourite-sons-returning-home

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                                      Good news. Are they still playing in Japan or will they play in the NPC next year too? Messam's only 15 caps away from 100 Waikato caps, it'd be cool to see him reach it.

                                      Still hoping like hell Rennie keeps TNW away from the midfield.

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                                        Messam and TNW are confirmed.

                                        http://www.chiefs.co.nz/news/news/latest-news/266-two-of-the-chiefs-favourite-sons-returning-home

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                                        @Bovidae That's indeed good news! The media release doesn't say for how long TNW has re-committed to the Chiefs, but Messam has signed for two years. In the past, if I remember it correctly, NZR was not prepared to re-sign NZ players if they - again - wanted stints overseas (particularly Japan) during the SR off-season. I'm thinking of Tamati Ellison. If that's correct, then it's likely he'll play for Waikato again? That's assuming he'll probably not get an AB call-up (except in case of many injuries).

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                                          Good news. Are they still playing in Japan or will they play in the NPC next year too? Messam's only 15 caps away from 100 Waikato caps, it'd be cool to see him reach it.

                                          Still hoping like hell Rennie keeps TNW away from the midfield.

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                                          @Unco I'd say Messam is back for good so would be available for Waikato too. A loose forward combo of Messam, Cane and Leitch will be handy with Sanders, Seu, Bardoul, Karpik, Boshier as backups.

                                          For TNW, the only starting position available to him would be right wing fighting with Pulu. He could be used as a third option in the midfield in a match-day 23.

                                          My starting backline would be: TKB-Cruden-Lowe-Ngatai-ALB-TNW/Pulu-DMac.

                                          We'll see who else is in the squad next week.

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