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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    Has the TNW signing be confirmed? I thought the media were just expecting him to re-sign? Can't find it on Chiefs website.

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    @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2017:

    Has the TNW signing be confirmed? I thought the media were just expecting him to re-sign? Can't find it on Chiefs website.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/85378694

    You are correct. The headline of the article says he has re-signed but the first line says it is only 'believed'

    I'll leave him in there at the moment though as these rumours are usually true if they have gone so far as to make it to print.

    Messam returning is still just a rumour as far as I know.

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      @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2017:

      Has the TNW signing be confirmed? I thought the media were just expecting him to re-sign? Can't find it on Chiefs website.

      http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/85378694

      You are correct. The headline of the article says he has re-signed but the first line says it is only 'believed'

      I'll leave him in there at the moment though as these rumours are usually true if they have gone so far as to make it to print.

      Messam returning is still just a rumour as far as I know.

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      @Crucial said in Chiefs 2017:

      Messam returning is still just a rumour as far as I know.

      It was always signalled that Messam would return after his stint in Japan so I'd say that is more probable than possible.

      As for the 3rd halfback, Pele Cowley was actually in the squad as Pulu's replacement before Hammington. Cowley then got injured himself.

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        Sam Cane is in there twice?

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          Sam Cane is in there twice?

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          @Milk said in Chiefs 2017:

          Sam Cane is in there twice?

          Yes. Because he is awesome.

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            @Milk said in Chiefs 2017:

            Sam Cane is in there twice?

            Yes. Because he is awesome.

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            @Crucial Makes sense. He'll have a big workload next year, twice the work of some lesser players.

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              johan has gone to japan

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                johan has gone to japan

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                @Cpt-Kumera said in Chiefs 2017:

                johan has gone to japan

                Is it an 'off-season' thing though? As far as I can tell he is still contracted to the Chiefs.

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                  @Cpt-Kumera said in Chiefs 2017:

                  johan has gone to japan

                  Is it an 'off-season' thing though? As far as I can tell he is still contracted to the Chiefs.

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                  @Crucial said in Chiefs 2017:

                  @Cpt-Kumera said in Chiefs 2017:

                  johan has gone to japan

                  Is it an 'off-season' thing though? As far as I can tell he is still contracted to the Chiefs.

                  Yes, signed through to 2017.

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                    Wow! Didn't realise SBW had gone to the Blues

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                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                      Wow! Didn't realise SBW had gone to the Blues

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                      @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2017:

                      Wow! Didn't realise SBW had gone to the Blues

                      Just hand them the title now I reckon. After that I have it on good authority that SBW is heading to the Canes then the Highlanders to become the only player to grace all five franchises with his presence.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        You'd think they'd be looking at Joe Tupe for 8/6.

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                        @Tim said in Chiefs 2017:

                        You'd think they'd be looking at Joe Tupe for 8/6.

                        they fucking better be

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                          Hammington has signed with the Highlanders. He has a good relationship with Rennie so you'd think he was given the heads up on plans for a third halfback.

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                            They need a third hooker. Faiva is the probable one but I like the young Misa who is an outstanding off the bench option. Reilly (Bay of Plenty) has a good season too.

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                              They need a third hooker. Faiva is the probable one but I like the young Misa who is an outstanding off the bench option. Reilly (Bay of Plenty) has a good season too.

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                              @cgrant said in Chiefs 2017:

                              They need a third hooker. Faiva is the probable one but I like the young Misa who is an outstanding off the bench option. Reilly (Bay of Plenty) has a good season too.

                              Given that is is unlikely they will have a big name third hooker I would say the third spot will be a WTG one (and probably one other in the training squad as well). They will probably be looking at potential and succession planning.

                              These were the players named in the Development squad early in the year

                              Joseph Royal (BOP)
                              Epalahame Faiva (W)
                              Steven Misa (W)

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                Probably time to start up the squad threads as signing news starts filtering in...

                                I have taken the Wiki list as a starter. Please add info as it comes to hand

                                PROPS
                                Gone:
                                Pauliasi Manu (to Blues)
                                Confirmed:
                                Kane Hames
                                Nepo Laulala
                                Atunaisa Moli

                                2016 others
                                Siegfried Fisiihoi (wider training group)
                                Mitchell Graham
                                Siate Tokolahi
                                Hiroshi Yamashita

                                HOOKERS
                                Gone:
                                Rhys Marshall (to Ireland Munster)
                                Confirmed:
                                Hika Elliot
                                Nathan Harris

                                LOCK
                                Confirmed:
                                Michael Allardice
                                Dominic Bird
                                Brodie Retallick

                                2016 Others
                                James Tucker (wider training group)

                                LOOSE FORWARDS
                                Confirmed
                                Johan Bardoul
                                Sam Cane
                                Mitchell Karpik

                                2016 Others
                                Lachlan Boshier
                                Sam Cane
                                Sam Henwood
                                Mitchell Karpik
                                Tevita Koloamatangi
                                Liam Messam
                                Tom Sanders
                                Taleni Seu

                                N8
                                Gone
                                Ma'ama Vaipulu (to France Castres)
                                Confirmed
                                none
                                2016 Others
                                Mitchell Brown (short-term)
                                Michael Leitch

                                HALFBACK
                                Gone
                                Augustine Pulu (to Blues)
                                Confirmed
                                Tawera Kerr-Barlow
                                Brad Weber

                                2016 Others
                                Kayne Hammington (short-term)

                                FIRST FIVE
                                Gone
                                None
                                Confirmed
                                Aaron Cruden
                                2016 Others
                                Stephen Donald

                                MIDFIELD
                                Gone
                                Seta Tamanivalu (to Crusaders)
                                Substituted off Sonny Bill Williams (to Blues)
                                Confirmed
                                Anton Lienert-Brown
                                Charlie Ngatai

                                2016 Others
                                Sam Vaka (wider training group)

                                OUTSIDE BACKS
                                Gone
                                Andrew Horrell (to Japan Coca-Cola Red Sparks)
                                Confirmed
                                Glen Fisiiahi
                                James Lowe
                                Toni Pulu
                                Tim Nanai-Williams
                                Damian McKenzie

                                2016 Others
                                Shaun Stevenson (wider training group)
                                Chase Tiatia (did not play)
                                Latu Vaeno (wider training group)
                                Sam McNicol

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                                Messam and TNW are confirmed.

                                http://www.chiefs.co.nz/news/news/latest-news/266-two-of-the-chiefs-favourite-sons-returning-home

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                                  Good news. Are they still playing in Japan or will they play in the NPC next year too? Messam's only 15 caps away from 100 Waikato caps, it'd be cool to see him reach it.

                                  Still hoping like hell Rennie keeps TNW away from the midfield.

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                                    Messam and TNW are confirmed.

                                    http://www.chiefs.co.nz/news/news/latest-news/266-two-of-the-chiefs-favourite-sons-returning-home

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                                    @Bovidae That's indeed good news! The media release doesn't say for how long TNW has re-committed to the Chiefs, but Messam has signed for two years. In the past, if I remember it correctly, NZR was not prepared to re-sign NZ players if they - again - wanted stints overseas (particularly Japan) during the SR off-season. I'm thinking of Tamati Ellison. If that's correct, then it's likely he'll play for Waikato again? That's assuming he'll probably not get an AB call-up (except in case of many injuries).

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                                      Good news. Are they still playing in Japan or will they play in the NPC next year too? Messam's only 15 caps away from 100 Waikato caps, it'd be cool to see him reach it.

                                      Still hoping like hell Rennie keeps TNW away from the midfield.

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                                      @Unco I'd say Messam is back for good so would be available for Waikato too. A loose forward combo of Messam, Cane and Leitch will be handy with Sanders, Seu, Bardoul, Karpik, Boshier as backups.

                                      For TNW, the only starting position available to him would be right wing fighting with Pulu. He could be used as a third option in the midfield in a match-day 23.

                                      My starting backline would be: TKB-Cruden-Lowe-Ngatai-ALB-TNW/Pulu-DMac.

                                      We'll see who else is in the squad next week.

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                                        Hard to imagine TNW not getting time in midfield... we're looking pretty light there.

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                                          McNicol has developped very well this season so he could be the starter on the right wing.

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