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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    Other big news of that is Darry and Roe join the squad.

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    @taniwharugby if I was Fakatava I'd be on the phone to my agent. Finding out you're seventh in line for All Blacks call up must be really frustrating. Especially after NZ rugby came out and called him a 'potential all black' when he signed on for two more years a few months back.

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      @taniwharugby if I was Fakatava I'd be on the phone to my agent. Finding out you're seventh in line for All Blacks call up must be really frustrating. Especially after NZ rugby came out and called him a 'potential all black' when he signed on for two more years a few months back.

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      @handa457 yeah is odd how far he must have fallen....

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @handa457 yeah is odd how far he must have fallen....

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        @taniwharugby I genuinely can't understand it. In my opinion he's one of the best game managing halfbacks in New Zealand at the moment and he's a constant threat around the ruck.

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          Fakatava was sharp against the Lions, in a dogshit team performance. I don't understand it at all.

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            Leicester to join the ABs as injury cover

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              Leicester to join the ABs as injury cover

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              @jamsb said in All Blacks 2025:

              Leicester to join the ABs as injury cover

              Which based on how Willie was injury cover then started v France might mean him in the 13 jersey, I'm guessing.

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                Leicester to join the ABs as injury cover

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                @jamsb said in All Blacks 2025:

                Leicester to join the ABs as injury cover

                Is that a prediction or..? I can't imagine how the fuck that turnstile would be even mentioned.

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @jamsb said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Leicester to join the ABs as injury cover

                  Is that a prediction or..? I can't imagine how the fuck that turnstile would be even mentioned.

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                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @jamsb said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Leicester to join the ABs as injury cover

                  Is that a prediction or..? I can't imagine how the fuck that turnstile would be even mentioned.

                  It's confirmed. He's been called in

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                    Razor has got what he wanted with Leicester Fainga’anuku being called in. There really are no excuses for him anymore. Time to see results.

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                      Check out the comments! I'm fucked if I know what these people are seeing in him.

                      https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CMvZNT8zk/

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        Check out the comments! I'm fucked if I know what these people are seeing in him.

                        https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CMvZNT8zk/

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                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Check out the comments! I'm fucked if I know what these people are seeing in him.

                        https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CMvZNT8zk/

                        I’m excited about him bollocking through tackles

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Check out the comments! I'm fucked if I know what these people are seeing in him.

                          https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CMvZNT8zk/

                          I’m excited about him bollocking through tackles

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                          @MN5 he's more likely to fall off them in defence.

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            Check out the comments! I'm fucked if I know what these people are seeing in him.

                            https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CMvZNT8zk/

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                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Check out the comments! I'm fucked if I know what these people are seeing in him.

                            https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CMvZNT8zk/

                            I noticed someone arguing he was the best choice because he was the 'most qualified', i.e. he's played a handful of tests, a couple of which against minnows. This idea that experience trumps all else has seeped into the public consciousness in the last year or so and it's incredibly frustrating. I am so sick of hearing this as reasoning for selecting a player. Let's just completely ignore form, skill set and actual impact in favour of a box-ticking approach and create a self-perpetuating cycle where opportunities go to the same limited pool of players simply because they already have caps, while genuinely talented options are overlooked.

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                            • ShaquilleOatmealS ShaquilleOatmeal

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Check out the comments! I'm fucked if I know what these people are seeing in him.

                              https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CMvZNT8zk/

                              I noticed someone arguing he was the best choice because he was the 'most qualified', i.e. he's played a handful of tests, a couple of which against minnows. This idea that experience trumps all else has seeped into the public consciousness in the last year or so and it's incredibly frustrating. I am so sick of hearing this as reasoning for selecting a player. Let's just completely ignore form, skill set and actual impact in favour of a box-ticking approach and create a self-perpetuating cycle where opportunities go to the same limited pool of players simply because they already have caps, while genuinely talented options are overlooked.

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                              @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Check out the comments! I'm fucked if I know what these people are seeing in him.

                              https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CMvZNT8zk/

                              I noticed someone arguing he was the best choice because he was the 'most qualified', i.e. he's played a handful of tests a couple of which against minnows. This idea that experience trumps all else has seeped into the public consciousness in the last year or so and it's incredibly frustrating. I am so sick of hearing this as reasoning for selecting a player. Let's just completely ignore form, skill set and actual impact in favour of a box-ticking approach and create a self-perpetuating cycle where opportunities go to the same limited pool of players simply because they already have caps, while genuinely talented options are overlooked.

                              Plus he’s a Crusader who went overseas so they instantly become better players and massive reasons why the ABs struggle in their absence….

                              See also: Mo’unga, Richie

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                              • antipodeanA antipodean

                                @MN5 he's more likely to fall off them in defence.

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                                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @MN5 he's more likely to fall off them in defence.

                                WEL you are bagging him with out seeing how he goes in the ABs after playing in France maybe wait and see aye.

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                                  Given the play of 11, 13 & 14 has been sub optimal this year for the All Blacks his inclusion in the squad would seem to be a good thing.

                                  Not that he is the panacea but it's good to have this sort of option at your disposal if you are in Razors shoes, imo.

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                                  • ChrisC Chris

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @MN5 he's more likely to fall off them in defence.

                                    WEL you are bagging him with out seeing how he goes in the ABs after playing in France maybe wait and see aye.

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                                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @MN5 he's more likely to fall off them in defence.

                                    WEL you are bagging him with out seeing how he goes in the ABs after playing in France maybe wait and see aye.

                                    No, let's judge him on his form. Was he poor defensively as a winger before he left and poor defensively as a centre in France?

                                    Otherwise let's just pick any fluffybunny and see how they go too.

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @MN5 he's more likely to fall off them in defence.

                                      WEL you are bagging him with out seeing how he goes in the ABs after playing in France maybe wait and see aye.

                                      No, let's judge him on his form. Was he poor defensively as a winger before he left and poor defensively as a centre in France?

                                      Otherwise let's just pick any fluffybunny and see how they go too.

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                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Otherwise let's just pick any fluffybunny and see how they go too.

                                      welcome to the Fern!

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                                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @MN5 he's more likely to fall off them in defence.

                                        WEL you are bagging him with out seeing how he goes in the ABs after playing in France maybe wait and see aye.

                                        No, let's judge him on his form. Was he poor defensively as a winger before he left and poor defensively as a centre in France?

                                        Otherwise let's just pick any fluffybunny and see how they go too.

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                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @MN5 he's more likely to fall off them in defence.

                                        WEL you are bagging him with out seeing how he goes in the ABs after playing in France maybe wait and see aye.

                                        No, let's judge him on his form. Was he poor defensively as a winger before he left and poor defensively as a centre in France?

                                        Otherwise let's just pick any fluffybunny and see how they go too.

                                        No he wasn’t poor in France I watched a lot of his games and he was good defensively.

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                                          He tackled at 76% in France

                                          The other midfielders in the squad tackle from 82-93%

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