All Blacks v Springboks I
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Jet said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Just watching the highlights
Le Roux was very unlucky for the first try
If he'd made contact with Narawa it would have been a YC and possible Penalty Try
Should Narawa have released the ball before running over to score?
Wasn't tackled, but wasn't allowed to be. A tough one to call.
Off your feet, out of the game?
"not held"
Not tackled.
@MiketheSnow nothing stopping him from jackling on his feet apart from overcommitting. Would have thought that would have compelled Narawa to release.
So not unlucky as much as clumsy.
Agreed
Did well not to flop on him
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Pretty cool story about Jeff McTainsh, apparently he was doing the commentary for the Southland vs Canterbury Shield challenge and was passed a note saying Tony Johnson had lost his voice and he was needed at Eden Park. Flew up and did the call without any prep, awesome commitment.
Yeah I think he does a good job.
Can’t remember the last time I wrote that!
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@MajorRage said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Pretty cool story about Jeff McTainsh, apparently he was doing the commentary for the Southland vs Canterbury Shield challenge and was passed a note saying Tony Johnson had lost his voice and he was needed at Eden Park. Flew up and did the call without any prep, awesome commitment.
Yeah I think he does a good job.
Can’t remember the last time I wrote that!
I thought it was Sumo at first, he definitely did a good job. Nice to have a young commentator coming through that isn’t an ex player.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Toddy said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@booboo 69 mins and 50 something
Thanks!
Yeah. Not the greatest option.
Good on them for having a crack. But ...
Bobby (now Bob) Skinstad was on Devlin's podcast this week, and he made a comment about getting out of your half along the lines of 60m gives you a chance to scramble in defence in case of a break or error, but 30m doesn't.
Seems our philosophy is possession anywhere is an opportunity.
Both legitimate povs.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Toddy said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@booboo 69 mins and 50 something
Thanks!
Yeah. Not the greatest option.
Good on them for having a crack. But ...
Bobby (now Bob) Skinstad was on Devlin's podcast this week, and he made a comment about getting out of your half along the lines of 60m gives you a chance to scramble in defence in case of a break or error, but 30m doesn't.
Seems our philosophy is possession anywhere is an opportunity.
Both legitimate povs.
I really don’t get why we don’t use Jordie and his big boot when clearing from our 22, he gets so much more distance than both Christie and Beauden.
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@BorderJB said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Eden Park record secure…… but a wallaby could be hiding over the fence, ready to raid the lush green paddock
Aust will also be a tougher test due to their ability to use the ball, and play with width. But let's worry about Wellington first.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Toddy said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@booboo 69 mins and 50 something
Thanks!
Yeah. Not the greatest option.
Good on them for having a crack. But ...
Bobby (now Bob) Skinstad was on Devlin's podcast this week, and he made a comment about getting out of your half along the lines of 60m gives you a chance to scramble in defence in case of a break or error, but 30m doesn't.
Seems our philosophy is possession anywhere is an opportunity.
Both legitimate povs.
I really don’t get why we don’t use Jordie and his big boot when clearing from our 22, he gets so much more distance than both Christie and Beauden.
Jordie does take a little extra time with the big wind up.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@BorderJB said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Eden Park record secure…… but a wallaby could be hiding over the fence, ready to raid the lush green paddock
Aust will also be a tougher test due to their ability to use the ball, and play with width. But let's worry about Wellington first.
The Welly test is the one I’ve been most concerned about. The let down from what was always going to be a massive EP test. Potential injuries when we already have a few in the hospital ward, and the fact that I don’t think we have played well there over the last few seasons.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@BorderJB said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Eden Park record secure…… but a wallaby could be hiding over the fence, ready to raid the lush green paddock
Aust will also be a tougher test due to their ability to use the ball, and play with width. But let's worry about Wellington first.
The Welly test is the one I’ve been most concerned about. The let down from what was always going to be a massive EP test. Potential injuries when we already have a few in the hospital ward, and the fact that I don’t think we have played well there over the last few seasons.
The Cake Tin hasn’t been a happy hunting ground recently but we won our last test there so it’s not all doom and gloom. Important for us to back it up again in Wellington and make a statement against our biggest rivals.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@BorderJB said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Eden Park record secure…… but a wallaby could be hiding over the fence, ready to raid the lush green paddock
Aust will also be a tougher test due to their ability to use the ball, and play with width. But let's worry about Wellington first.
The Welly test is the one I’ve been most concerned about. The let down from what was always going to be a massive EP test. Potential injuries when we already have a few in the hospital ward, and the fact that I don’t think we have played well there over the last few seasons.
A bit like what happened in Argentina a win then we button off I am thinking the same, do we back up or not.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Stag said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Proctor has failed to impress again. Lester would provide far more impact.
He certainly hasn’t been bad tonight. Done everything asked off him but when we kick it away all night what the hell is he meant to do?
True - not much of a night for backs to show silky skills and complicated set plays.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Toddy said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@booboo 69 mins and 50 something
Thanks!
Yeah. Not the greatest option.
Good on them for having a crack. But ...
Bobby (now Bob) Skinstad was on Devlin's podcast this week, and he made a comment about getting out of your half along the lines of 60m gives you a chance to scramble in defence in case of a break or error, but 30m doesn't.
Seems our philosophy is possession anywhere is an opportunity.
Both legitimate povs.
I really don’t get why we don’t use Jordie and his big boot when clearing from our 22, he gets so much more distance than both Christie and Beauden.
We did. For about 15 minutes....
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Pretty cool story about Jeff McTainsh, apparently he was doing the commentary for the Southland vs Canterbury Shield challenge and was passed a note saying Tony Johnson had lost his voice and he was needed at Eden Park. Flew up and did the call without any prep, awesome commitment.
It's definitely a cool story but he must have been calling the Shield game from a studio in Auckland - there simply wasn't enough time to get from Invers to Auckland - the Shield game only kicked off 3 hours before the ABs
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
Pretty cool story about Jeff McTainsh, apparently he was doing the commentary for the Southland vs Canterbury Shield challenge and was passed a note saying Tony Johnson had lost his voice and he was needed at Eden Park. Flew up and did the call without any prep, awesome commitment.
It's definitely a cool story but he must have been calling the Shield game from a studio in Auckland - there simply wasn't enough time to get from Invers to Auckland - the Shield game only kicked off 3 hours before the ABs
Yeah you’re probably right, still a great effort nevertheless
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@canefan kick is only as good as.the chase, and it seems players put in the effort on the ones.that are.contestable yet put a half hearted attempt on one's.they see as too long, zero pressure
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@canefan kick is only as good as.the chase, and it seems players put in the effort on the ones.that are.contestable yet put a half hearted attempt on one's.they see as too long, zero pressure
WJ kicked long and set up a try. So did BB with his 50/20. JB kicked a long pressure relieving touch finder. There has to be some balance and we just fell in love with box kicks and dinky stuff again
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@canefan said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
If Narawa is out, who is next caboff the rank? Please dont say Reece..
I'd rather Leicester F or Clarke if fit..Just put Jordan at 14 and one of Love or DMac at 15.
Interesting that WJ didn't feature as much from 14. Probably more to do with the fact we refused to hold onto the ball than anything else
He scored a cracker try but then his confidence was shot after dropping about 4 box kicks in a row. Disappeared from the game after this. The coaches really need to work on this weak area of his game as he is a confidence player and or we are neutering our best attacking weapon.
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@pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
The obvious issue to me is we could not exit our 22 with Christie or BB, we have had this issue for years. Late in the game SA in their 22 and their 9 box kicks it past half way. We have to be able to exit, its fundamental yet we still can't do it.
In fact we did exit well initially, largely via Jordie's big boot. But regressed badly in last 15 or so.
Yeah that regression in the 2nd half led to their field position and points. If it’s fresh legs that are needed at halfback, a first five that can kick long, or just better heads up plays on turnovers the ABs need to get it sorted.
