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All Blacks vs Springboks II

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  • boobooB booboo

    @Canes4life any changes will be just covering for injury so not delving too deep into speculative selecting.

    I think Dmac starting at 15 would be stronger. But agree with giving Love some game time.

    I do prefer Jacobsen on bench to Kirifi. But would prefer another big body there, which by default is Finau.

    (FYI it's McAlister.)

    How does Rassie react?

    Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    How does Rassie react?

    Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.

    Also any halfback, including Williams, would have to be better than Williams last night.

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      I kind of wouldn't mind pushing Jordie back to 15 and having Tupaea starting 12 obviously then Jordan to wing with Clarke.
      I would also start Dmac at 10 with BB on the bench (prefer Love but they won't drop BB)

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        I quite like changing to QT 12 JB 13 mid game.

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        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

          @Nepia one of those lineout losses were dodgy. The Bok lifters threw one of their jumpers over to our side. Last time I checked that wasn’t allowed.

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          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          @Nepia one of those lineout losses were dodgy. The Bok lifters threw one of their jumpers over to our side. Last time I checked that wasn’t allowed.

          Yeah they were doing that most lineouts they won, it was smart as the ref didn't give a shit. I think the one you're talking about was so not straight they caught it on the AB side of the AB jumpers.

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          • boobooB booboo

            @booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

            How does Rassie react?

            Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.

            Also any halfback, including Williams, would have to be better than Williams last night.

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            @booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

            @booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

            How does Rassie react?

            Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.

            Also any halfback, including Williams, would have to be better than Williams last night.

            With those conditions and his relative strengths, the Boks would’ve been better served starting Reinach And playing him for the majority of the match.

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              Newell seemed to get schooled at scrum time by Ox?

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                The Springboks are angry and will be wanting to show a defiant response to losing at Eden Park. They will go after perceived vulnerabilities in our set piece work.

                Great opportunity for the ABs to go 2-0 on the South Africans and to get one hand on the Rugby Championship.

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                  Don't expect much change.

                  Ratima to start if fit. Sami T for Cody Taylor, Jordan to wing & DMac to 15 if Caleb Clarke unavailable. Reuben Love in the 23.

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                    A Georgian ref next game I see 🤷‍♂️

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                      A Georgian ref next game I see 🤷‍♂️

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                      @family-man said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                      A Georgian ref next game I see 🤷‍♂️

                      Ugh

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                        A Georgian ref next game I see 🤷‍♂️

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                        @family-man said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        A Georgian ref next game I see 🤷‍♂️

                        Likes a scrum pen.

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                          @family-man said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          A Georgian ref next game I see 🤷‍♂️

                          Likes a scrum pen.

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                          @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          @family-man said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          A Georgian ref next game I see 🤷‍♂️

                          Likes a scrum pen.

                          Better get the reps in with the scrum machine then

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @Canes4life any changes will be just covering for injury so not delving too deep into speculative selecting.

                            I think Dmac starting at 15 would be stronger. But agree with giving Love some game time.

                            I do prefer Jacobsen on bench to Kirifi. But would prefer another big body there, which by default is Finau.

                            (FYI it's McAlister.)

                            How does Rassie react?

                            Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.

                            Surely after Finau’s dogshite performances in the NPC and ABs this year puts him firmly out of contention

                            Yep a big no to Finau. It’s either Lakai or Jacobson for me.

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                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @Canes4life any changes will be just covering for injury so not delving too deep into speculative selecting.

                            I think Dmac starting at 15 would be stronger. But agree with giving Love some game time.

                            I do prefer Jacobsen on bench to Kirifi. But would prefer another big body there, which by default is Finau.

                            (FYI it's McAlister.)

                            How does Rassie react?

                            Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.

                            Surely after Finau’s dogshite performances in the NPC and ABs this year puts him firmly out of contention

                            Yep a big no to Finau. It’s either Lakai or Jacobson for me.

                            LOL Fuck off.

                            Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

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                            • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                              I quite like changing to QT 12 JB 13 mid game.

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                              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                              I quite like changing to QT 12 JB 13 mid game.

                              Refresh my memory of the times Jordie has played 13.

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                                Newell seemed to get schooled at scrum time by Ox?

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                                @dman68 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                Newell seemed to get schooled at scrum time by Ox?

                                Could see Lomax and Williams starting. Lomax is well used to Nche, and EDG better equipped to cope with Louw, especially with McAlister beside him.

                                Imagine Ratima back in 23. Perhaps Clarke to 11 and Ioane to 14?

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                                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  I quite like changing to QT 12 JB 13 mid game.

                                  Refresh my memory of the times Jordie has played 13.

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                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  I quite like changing to QT 12 JB 13 mid game.

                                  Refresh my memory of the times Jordie has played 13.

                                  https://all.rugby/player/jordie-barrett
                                  Occupied positions by Jordie on start team :
                                  Fullback : 91 times ( Fullback 51% )
                                  Center : 77 times ( Inside Centre 38%, Outside Centre 4% )
                                  Winger : 11 times ( Right Wing 6%, Left Wing 1% )
                                  Fly-Half : 1 times ( Fly-Half 1% )

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                                      I hope Rieko is dropped.

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                                        Boks will have Jasper Wiese back, so Van Straden to bench. Lood de Jager will start. Can imagine a new fullback to start, perhaps Fassi or Willemse.
                                        Faf will be in 23. Tough on Nortje, but I think Snyman will be restored to bench. My instinct is 6-2. Could make a case for SFM to start and Pollard to be closer.

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                                          Something like:

                                          1. De Groot
                                          2. Taukei'aho
                                          3. Newell
                                          4. Vaa'i
                                          5. S. Barrett (c)
                                          6. Parker
                                          7. A. Savea
                                          8. Sititi
                                          9. Ratima
                                          10. D Mac
                                          11. C. Clarke
                                          12. J. Barrett
                                          13. B. Proctor
                                          14. Jordan
                                          15. Love

                                          1. McAlister
                                          2. T. Williams
                                          3. Lomax
                                          4. Holland
                                          5. Lakai
                                          6. Christie
                                          7. B. Barrett
                                          8. L. Fainga'anuku
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