All Blacks vs Springboks II
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Noah Hotham available for this test match.
Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Noah Hotham available for this test match.
Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Noah Hotham available for this test match.
Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?
I think Ratima is still out, maybe Hotham comes back off the bench.
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
That looks like a team that wants to play Tony ball. Will ask a lot more questions of our defence than last week and I think having Snyman and Esterhuizen on the bench gives them far more impact than last week's bench. Not sure how good their backline will be on defence though. Could be a very high scoring game.
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@stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Will Razor roll the dice too?
I think Razor will roll the dice
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
find someone who loves you like canes4life loves players from Wellington. That's basically fan fic my guy.
Ferner backs player from his own province to get more minutes in the Black jersey. This is not a new trend MY GUY.
Lakai mentions wouldn't even come close to the likes of those that harp on about Blackadder, Sotutu, Dalton etc etc and they aren't even in the squad. At least MY GUY is in the frame.

Aside from Higgins (only a matter of time), players from the Canes that I've backed heavily in the past (Roigard, Lakai, Proctor, Aumua, Love and previously ASav from a young age) have all become ABs, not a bad strike rate for supposed fan fiction.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Ferner backs player from his own province to get more minutes in the Black jersey.
I really can’t stand it when Ferners get all provincial one-eyed when it’s the All Blacks we are talking about.
But hey, didn’t Scooter, Fletch, Codie and Will play well.
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Aphelele Fassi, Cheslin Kolbe, Canan Moodie, Damian Willemse, Ethan Hooker, Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu, Cobus Reinach, Jasper Wiese, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Siya Kolisi (capt), Ruan Nortje, Lood de Jager, Thomas du Toit, Malcolm Marx, Ox Nche. Bench: Marnus van der Merwe, Jan-Hendrik Wessels, Wilco Louw, RG Snyman, Kwagga Smith, Grant Williams, Manie Libbok, Andre Esterhuizen
Firstly a Monday team selection. Love the innovation.
Secondly, he’s picked the better halfback to start but the quicker halfback to finish.
Thirdly, in the history of Springbok rugby has a captain been dropped effectively mid-series?
Fourthly, a conventional 5/3 bench suggests to me that he is more concerned about his backline play so needs options.
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@stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Will Razor roll the dice too?
I think Razor will roll the dice
He's gonna got out on a limb and make one change.@Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Will Razor roll the dice too?
I think Razor will roll the dice
He's gonna got out on a limb and make one change.I think there will be 3.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Ferner backs player from his own province to get more minutes in the Black jersey.
I really can’t stand it when Ferners get all provincial one-eyed when it’s the All Blacks we are talking about.
But hey, didn’t Scooter, Fletch, Codie and Will play well.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Ferner backs player from his own province to get more minutes in the Black jersey.
I really can’t stand it when Ferners get all provincial one-eyed when it’s the All Blacks we are talking about.
But hey, didn’t Scooter, Fletch, Codie and Will play well.
Kind of taking the piss mate, hence why I said Lakai or Jacobson as bench cover over Kirifi (also a Hurricane) in my initial comments, because they cover more positions. It’s just whenever I mention a Hurricane some on here get a little pissy.
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
That looks like a team that wants to play Tony ball. Will ask a lot more questions of our defence than last week and I think having Snyman and Esterhuizen on the bench gives them far more impact than last week's bench. Not sure how good their backline will be on defence though. Could be a very high scoring game.
@akan004 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
That looks like a team that wants to play Tony ball. Will ask a lot more questions of our defence than last week and I think having Snyman and Esterhuizen on the bench gives them far more impact than last week's bench. Not sure how good their backline will be on defence though. Could be a very high scoring game.
Herein lies (at least some of) the Boks problems at the moment.
The introduction of a more attacking mindset (and to be clear - I am in favour) has affected our usually great defence.
If they can get the defensive pattern right to work with Tont-ball, we'd be in a better place.Then we just have to work on:
Lineouts
Mauls
Rucks
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@akan004 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
That looks like a team that wants to play Tony ball. Will ask a lot more questions of our defence than last week and I think having Snyman and Esterhuizen on the bench gives them far more impact than last week's bench. Not sure how good their backline will be on defence though. Could be a very high scoring game.
Herein lies (at least some of) the Boks problems at the moment.
The introduction of a more attacking mindset (and to be clear - I am in favour) has affected our usually great defence.
If they can get the defensive pattern right to work with Tont-ball, we'd be in a better place.Then we just have to work on:
Lineouts
Mauls
Rucks
... basically everything else.@Billy-Webb would there be time to work on that stuff when they still haven't got the midfield lift off a ruck perfected?
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Noah Hotham available for this test match.
Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?
I think Ratima is still out, maybe Hotham comes back off the bench.
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Noah Hotham available for this test match.
Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?
I think Ratima is still out, maybe Hotham comes back off the bench.
Christie is playing OK, but as others have said, needs to be pulled earlier as he faded a lot last week. I'd def do Ratima if fit and poss. look for Hotham to start