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All Blacks vs Springboks II

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    https://www.citizen.co.za/sport/rugby/rassie-makes-wholesale-changes-to-springboks-team-for-wellington-test/

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      Not being in NZ can someone please post Dagg's radio show this week when he lays into Jordan for not being able to catch high balls?

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        No Eben, no DDA?!

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            https://www.citizen.co.za/sport/rugby/rassie-makes-wholesale-changes-to-springboks-team-for-wellington-test/

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            @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

            https://www.citizen.co.za/sport/rugby/rassie-makes-wholesale-changes-to-springboks-team-for-wellington-test/

            Will Razor roll the dice too?

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              https://www.citizen.co.za/sport/rugby/rassie-makes-wholesale-changes-to-springboks-team-for-wellington-test/

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              @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

              https://www.citizen.co.za/sport/rugby/rassie-makes-wholesale-changes-to-springboks-team-for-wellington-test/

              That looks like a team that wants to play Tony ball. Will ask a lot more questions of our defence than last week and I think having Snyman and Esterhuizen on the bench gives them far more impact than last week's bench. Not sure how good their backline will be on defence though. Could be a very high scoring game.

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                @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                https://www.citizen.co.za/sport/rugby/rassie-makes-wholesale-changes-to-springboks-team-for-wellington-test/

                Will Razor roll the dice too?

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                @stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                https://www.citizen.co.za/sport/rugby/rassie-makes-wholesale-changes-to-springboks-team-for-wellington-test/

                Will Razor roll the dice too?

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                  @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                  https://www.citizen.co.za/sport/rugby/rassie-makes-wholesale-changes-to-springboks-team-for-wellington-test/

                  Will Razor roll the dice too?

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                  @stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                  @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                  https://www.citizen.co.za/sport/rugby/rassie-makes-wholesale-changes-to-springboks-team-for-wellington-test/

                  Will Razor roll the dice too?

                  I think Razor will roll the dice
                  He's gonna got out on a limb and make one change.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                    find someone who loves you like canes4life loves players from Wellington. That's basically fan fic my guy.

                    Ferner backs player from his own province to get more minutes in the Black jersey. This is not a new trend MY GUY.

                    Lakai mentions wouldn't even come close to the likes of those that harp on about Blackadder, Sotutu, Dalton etc etc and they aren't even in the squad. At least MY GUY is in the frame. 😆

                    Aside from Higgins (only a matter of time), players from the Canes that I've backed heavily in the past (Roigard, Lakai, Proctor, Aumua, Love and previously ASav from a young age) have all become ABs, not a bad strike rate for supposed fan fiction.

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                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                    Ferner backs player from his own province to get more minutes in the Black jersey.

                    I really can’t stand it when Ferners get all provincial one-eyed when it’s the All Blacks we are talking about.

                    But hey, didn’t Scooter, Fletch, Codie and Will play well.

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                      Aphelele Fassi, Cheslin Kolbe, Canan Moodie, Damian Willemse, Ethan Hooker, Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu, Cobus Reinach, Jasper Wiese, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Siya Kolisi (capt), Ruan Nortje, Lood de Jager, Thomas du Toit, Malcolm Marx, Ox Nche. Bench: Marnus van der Merwe, Jan-Hendrik Wessels, Wilco Louw, RG Snyman, Kwagga Smith, Grant Williams, Manie Libbok, Andre Esterhuizen

                      Firstly a Monday team selection. Love the innovation.

                      Secondly, he’s picked the better halfback to start but the quicker halfback to finish.

                      Thirdly, in the history of Springbok rugby has a captain been dropped effectively mid-series?

                      Fourthly, a conventional 5/3 bench suggests to me that he is more concerned about his backline play so needs options.

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                        @stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        https://www.citizen.co.za/sport/rugby/rassie-makes-wholesale-changes-to-springboks-team-for-wellington-test/

                        Will Razor roll the dice too?

                        I think Razor will roll the dice
                        He's gonna got out on a limb and make one change.

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                        @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        @stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        https://www.citizen.co.za/sport/rugby/rassie-makes-wholesale-changes-to-springboks-team-for-wellington-test/

                        Will Razor roll the dice too?

                        I think Razor will roll the dice
                        He's gonna got out on a limb and make one change.

                        I think there will be 3.

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                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          Ferner backs player from his own province to get more minutes in the Black jersey.

                          I really can’t stand it when Ferners get all provincial one-eyed when it’s the All Blacks we are talking about.

                          But hey, didn’t Scooter, Fletch, Codie and Will play well.

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                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          Ferner backs player from his own province to get more minutes in the Black jersey.

                          I really can’t stand it when Ferners get all provincial one-eyed when it’s the All Blacks we are talking about.

                          But hey, didn’t Scooter, Fletch, Codie and Will play well.

                          Kind of taking the piss mate, hence why I said Lakai or Jacobson as bench cover over Kirifi (also a Hurricane) in my initial comments, because they cover more positions. It’s just whenever I mention a Hurricane some on here get a little pissy.

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                            That Boks team is a smoke screen. No way it doesn't change before Saturday.

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                              @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                              https://www.citizen.co.za/sport/rugby/rassie-makes-wholesale-changes-to-springboks-team-for-wellington-test/

                              That looks like a team that wants to play Tony ball. Will ask a lot more questions of our defence than last week and I think having Snyman and Esterhuizen on the bench gives them far more impact than last week's bench. Not sure how good their backline will be on defence though. Could be a very high scoring game.

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                              @akan004 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                              @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                              https://www.citizen.co.za/sport/rugby/rassie-makes-wholesale-changes-to-springboks-team-for-wellington-test/

                              That looks like a team that wants to play Tony ball. Will ask a lot more questions of our defence than last week and I think having Snyman and Esterhuizen on the bench gives them far more impact than last week's bench. Not sure how good their backline will be on defence though. Could be a very high scoring game.

                              Herein lies (at least some of) the Boks problems at the moment.
                              The introduction of a more attacking mindset (and to be clear - I am in favour) has affected our usually great defence.
                              If they can get the defensive pattern right to work with Tont-ball, we'd be in a better place.

                              Then we just have to work on:
                              Lineouts
                              Mauls
                              Rucks
                              ... basically everything else.

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                                @akan004 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                https://www.citizen.co.za/sport/rugby/rassie-makes-wholesale-changes-to-springboks-team-for-wellington-test/

                                That looks like a team that wants to play Tony ball. Will ask a lot more questions of our defence than last week and I think having Snyman and Esterhuizen on the bench gives them far more impact than last week's bench. Not sure how good their backline will be on defence though. Could be a very high scoring game.

                                Herein lies (at least some of) the Boks problems at the moment.
                                The introduction of a more attacking mindset (and to be clear - I am in favour) has affected our usually great defence.
                                If they can get the defensive pattern right to work with Tont-ball, we'd be in a better place.

                                Then we just have to work on:
                                Lineouts
                                Mauls
                                Rucks
                                ... basically everything else.

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                                @Billy-Webb would there be time to work on that stuff when they still haven't got the midfield lift off a ruck perfected?

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                                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  Noah Hotham available for this test match.

                                  Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?

                                  I think Ratima is still out, maybe Hotham comes back off the bench.

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                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  Noah Hotham available for this test match.

                                  Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?

                                  I think Ratima is still out, maybe Hotham comes back off the bench.

                                  Christie is playing OK, but as others have said, needs to be pulled earlier as he faded a lot last week. I'd def do Ratima if fit and poss. look for Hotham to start

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                                    I just hope Christie and Rieko are replaced.

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                                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      Noah Hotham available for this test match.

                                      Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?

                                      I think Ratima is still out, maybe Hotham comes back off the bench.

                                      Christie is playing OK, but as others have said, needs to be pulled earlier as he faded a lot last week. I'd def do Ratima if fit and poss. look for Hotham to start

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      Noah Hotham available for this test match.

                                      Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?

                                      I think Ratima is still out, maybe Hotham comes back off the bench.

                                      Christie is playing OK, but as others have said, needs to be pulled earlier as he faded a lot last week. I'd def do Ratima if fit and poss. look for Hotham to start

                                      Doesn't look like Ratima is fit based on the official update. Hotham will be touch and go.

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                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                        Noah Hotham available for this test match.

                                        Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?

                                        I think Ratima is still out, maybe Hotham comes back off the bench.

                                        Christie is playing OK, but as others have said, needs to be pulled earlier as he faded a lot last week. I'd def do Ratima if fit and poss. look for Hotham to start

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                        Noah Hotham available for this test match.

                                        Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?

                                        I think Ratima is still out, maybe Hotham comes back off the bench.

                                        Christie is playing OK, but as others have said, needs to be pulled earlier as he faded a lot last week. I'd def do Ratima if fit and poss. look for Hotham to start

                                        It probably depends a bit on whether or not Hotham is 85% or 95%.

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                                          I just hope Christie and Rieko are replaced.

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                                          @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          I just hope Christie and Rieko are replaced.

                                          If Christie plays (due to injuries) I'd like to see him get the hook at half time or just after, give Preston a half. I'd like Clarke to replace Ioane

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