All Blacks vs Springboks II
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@Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Finau's best efforts were against France B, which should be discarded.
Parker seems more consistent.
SA still controlled a lot of possession and territory, and our defence faded in the last 20 minutes.
Don't get too excited yet.
Sititi will be better for playing. Same for Lomax and Williams. Losing Taylor earlier than planned won’t have helped the plan to counter the Bok late surge. Likewise losing Narawa.
I would expect ABs to be better conditioned towards the end of the next test. Also helps if play is down the Bok end
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@stodders I have a couple of South African friends where I live. We all seem to be talking our chances down.
@Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@stodders I have a couple of South African friends where I live. We all seem to be talking our chances down.
Boks are 4-time World Cup winners and reigning champions. Can’t hide from being favourites. Got to wear it
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
find someone who loves you like canes4life loves players from Wellington. That's basically fan fic my guy.
Ferner backs player from his own province to get more minutes in the Black jersey. This is not a new trend MY GUY.
Lakai mentions wouldn't even come close to the likes of those that harp on about Blackadder, Sotutu, Dalton etc etc and they aren't even in the squad. At least MY GUY is in the frame.
Aside from Higgins (only a matter of time), players from the Canes that I've backed heavily in the past (Roigard, Lakai, Proctor, Aumua, Love and previously ASav from a young age) have all become ABs, not a bad strike rate for supposed fan fiction.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
f
Aside from Higgins (only a matter of time),
Riley Higgins is not contained by time, time answers to Riley Higgins.
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@Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@stodders I have a couple of South African friends where I live. We all seem to be talking our chances down.
Boks are 4-time World Cup winners and reigning champions. Can’t hide from being favourites. Got to wear it
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@stodders I have a couple of South African friends where I live. We all seem to be talking our chances down.
Boks are 4-time World Cup winners and reigning champions. Can’t hide from being favourites. Got to wear it
Probably should be 6 time winners.
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Rieko may get a reprieve with perhaps not too many changes to the back 3 wanted and at least 1 (and possibly 2) changes already occurring
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Rieko may get a reprieve with perhaps not too many changes to the back 3 wanted and at least 1 (and possibly 2) changes already occurring
I'd look a Roane to 14, Clarke in to 11
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
No Eben, no DDA?!
Could have done with him coaching us for a year or so to light fires under some arses.
Rightly or wrongly he doesnt reward bad performances.
Unlike the Allblacks.
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
No Eben, no DDA?!
Could have done with him coaching us for a year or so to light fires under some arses.
Rightly or wrongly he doesnt reward bad performances.
Unlike the Allblacks.
Because Etzebeth played so poorly.
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Finau's best efforts were against France B, which should be discarded.
Parker seems more consistent.
SA still controlled a lot of possession and territory, and our defence faded in the last 20 minutes.
Don't get too excited yet.
@Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Finau's best efforts were against France B, which should be discarded.
Parker seems more consistent.
SA still controlled a lot of possession and territory, and our defence faded in the last 20 minutes.
Don't get too excited yet.
Parker was only on for 8 or those minutes.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Ferner backs player from his own province to get more minutes in the Black jersey.
I really can’t stand it when Ferners get all provincial one-eyed when it’s the All Blacks we are talking about.
But hey, didn’t Scooter, Fletch, Codie and Will play well.
Kind of taking the piss mate, hence why I said Lakai or Jacobson as bench cover over Kirifi (also a Hurricane) in my initial comments, because they cover more positions. It’s just whenever I mention a Hurricane some on here get a little pissy.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
It’s just whenever I mention a Hurricane some on here get a little pissy.
So, most of the time then!
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Confused...didn't Lakai play nearly the whole of the last test vs France Nov 23?
Also played well. Has one try vs Japan ..though could argue they are minnows@Saguto said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Confused...didn't Lakai play nearly the whole of the last test vs France Nov 23?
Also played well. Has one try vs Japan ..though could argue they are minnowsGot a try against the French too.
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@Jet said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
No Eben, no DDA?!
Could have done with him coaching us for a year or so to light fires under some arses.
Rightly or wrongly he doesnt reward bad performances.
Unlike the Allblacks.
Because Etzebeth played so poorly.
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
No Eben, no DDA?!
Could have done with him coaching us for a year or so to light fires under some arses.
Rightly or wrongly he doesnt reward bad performances.
Unlike the Allblacks.
Because Etzebeth played so poorly.
Rassie is either prescient or full of shit
Based on one average Etzebeth match I’d wager the latter
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@Snowy said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@family-man said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
A Georgian ref next game I see
️Well having just read all of the first test thread and the Black ferns one, we can rest assured that if any calls go our way @MiketheSnow will be sure to point them out.
maybe he thinks we got the rub, maybe he thinks AB fans are getting cocky and he wants to correct? But for the second, I am not sure, the related threads have been fairly pessimistic!
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
maybe he thinks we got the rub,
Like home sides do generally. When read in sequence it was remarkable exercise in cherry picking decisions (which is why I remarked).
Dickson didn't seem to be as pedantic as usual, and it ended up at 10 penalties each (I think) so read into that what you will.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
maybe he thinks we got the rub,
Like home sides do generally. When read in sequence it was remarkable exercise in cherry picking decisions (which is why I remarked).
Dickson didn't seem to be as pedantic as usual, and it ended up at 10 penalties each (I think) so read into that what you will.
@Snowy said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
maybe he thinks we got the rub,
Like home sides do generally. When read in sequence it was remarkable exercise in cherry picking decisions (which is why I remarked).
Dickson didn't seem to be as pedantic as usual, and it ended up at 10 penalties each (I think) so read into that what you will.
The Springboks are obviously cheats consistently flouting the law and deservedly penalised, whilst he was unreasonably harsh on us.
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@Snowy said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
maybe he thinks we got the rub,
Like home sides do generally. When read in sequence it was remarkable exercise in cherry picking decisions (which is why I remarked).
Dickson didn't seem to be as pedantic as usual, and it ended up at 10 penalties each (I think) so read into that what you will.
The Springboks are obviously cheats consistently flouting the law and deservedly penalised, whilst he was unreasonably harsh on us.
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Snowy said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
maybe he thinks we got the rub,
Like home sides do generally. When read in sequence it was remarkable exercise in cherry picking decisions (which is why I remarked).
Dickson didn't seem to be as pedantic as usual, and it ended up at 10 penalties each (I think) so read into that what you will.
The Springboks are obviously cheats consistently flouting the law and deservedly penalised, whilst he was unreasonably harsh on us.
That's exactly how I read it too!
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@Snowy said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
maybe he thinks we got the rub,
Like home sides do generally. When read in sequence it was remarkable exercise in cherry picking decisions (which is why I remarked).
Dickson didn't seem to be as pedantic as usual, and it ended up at 10 penalties each (I think) so read into that what you will.
The Springboks are obviously cheats consistently flouting the law and deservedly penalised, whilst he was unreasonably harsh on us.
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Snowy said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
maybe he thinks we got the rub,
Like home sides do generally. When read in sequence it was remarkable exercise in cherry picking decisions (which is why I remarked).
Dickson didn't seem to be as pedantic as usual, and it ended up at 10 penalties each (I think) so read into that what you will.
The Springboks are obviously cheats consistently flouting the law and
deservedly penalisedwere not penalised anywhere near enough, whilst he was unreasonably harsh on us.Fixed
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I’m not so harsh on Dickson’s performance. I agreed with every penalty he called on South Africa.
Fortunately this upcoming test, the ref will have no bearing on the outcome of the match given we will win by 20.
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Apart for the first 20 minutes, our kicking game was average. To me we took the foot off the throat with the Boks gradually working their way back into the game.
Justin Marshall ( don’t usually quote him ) said we lacked variation i.e. we could have kicked from 1st and 2nd as well.
I like the way Ireland do it - moving the point of attack around first and then from center field they kick long into corners. That’s how I remember.
Hate the box kick but recognise the issue with static ball and players getting smashed in the carry. Has to be something better?
