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All Blacks vs Springboks II

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  • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

    @akan004 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    https://www.citizen.co.za/sport/rugby/rassie-makes-wholesale-changes-to-springboks-team-for-wellington-test/

    That looks like a team that wants to play Tony ball. Will ask a lot more questions of our defence than last week and I think having Snyman and Esterhuizen on the bench gives them far more impact than last week's bench. Not sure how good their backline will be on defence though. Could be a very high scoring game.

    Herein lies (at least some of) the Boks problems at the moment.
    The introduction of a more attacking mindset (and to be clear - I am in favour) has affected our usually great defence.
    If they can get the defensive pattern right to work with Tont-ball, we'd be in a better place.

    Then we just have to work on:
    Lineouts
    Mauls
    Rucks
    ... basically everything else.

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    @Billy-Webb would there be time to work on that stuff when they still haven't got the midfield lift off a ruck perfected?

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    • ChrisC Chris

      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

      @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

      Noah Hotham available for this test match.

      Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?

      I think Ratima is still out, maybe Hotham comes back off the bench.

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      @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

      @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

      Noah Hotham available for this test match.

      Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?

      I think Ratima is still out, maybe Hotham comes back off the bench.

      Christie is playing OK, but as others have said, needs to be pulled earlier as he faded a lot last week. I'd def do Ratima if fit and poss. look for Hotham to start

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        I just hope Christie and Rieko are replaced.

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          Noah Hotham available for this test match.

          Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?

          I think Ratima is still out, maybe Hotham comes back off the bench.

          Christie is playing OK, but as others have said, needs to be pulled earlier as he faded a lot last week. I'd def do Ratima if fit and poss. look for Hotham to start

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          Noah Hotham available for this test match.

          Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?

          I think Ratima is still out, maybe Hotham comes back off the bench.

          Christie is playing OK, but as others have said, needs to be pulled earlier as he faded a lot last week. I'd def do Ratima if fit and poss. look for Hotham to start

          Doesn't look like Ratima is fit based on the official update. Hotham will be touch and go.

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

            @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

            Noah Hotham available for this test match.

            Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?

            I think Ratima is still out, maybe Hotham comes back off the bench.

            Christie is playing OK, but as others have said, needs to be pulled earlier as he faded a lot last week. I'd def do Ratima if fit and poss. look for Hotham to start

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            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

            @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

            Noah Hotham available for this test match.

            Hmmm, Ratima available too? If so, there's your 1 and 2 halfback for this game, if not, do they start Hotham or does he come off the bench?

            I think Ratima is still out, maybe Hotham comes back off the bench.

            Christie is playing OK, but as others have said, needs to be pulled earlier as he faded a lot last week. I'd def do Ratima if fit and poss. look for Hotham to start

            It probably depends a bit on whether or not Hotham is 85% or 95%.

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            • F Frank

              I just hope Christie and Rieko are replaced.

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              canefan
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              #89

              @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

              I just hope Christie and Rieko are replaced.

              If Christie plays (due to injuries) I'd like to see him get the hook at half time or just after, give Preston a half. I'd like Clarke to replace Ioane

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                Jimmy Jimmy
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                We should really fuck him up and name our team on Saturday morning.

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                  We should really fuck him up and name our team on Saturday morning.

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                  @Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                  We should really fuck him up and name our team on Saturday morning.

                  Bracket every position 😉

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                    Jimmy Jimmy
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                    Hahahaha love it

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                      No Eben, no DDA?!

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                      @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                      No Eben, no DDA?!

                      Could have done with him coaching us for a year or so to light fires under some arses.

                      Rightly or wrongly he doesnt reward bad performances.

                      Unlike the Allblacks.

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                        Confused...didn't Lakai play nearly the whole of the last test vs France Nov 23?
                        Also played well. Has one try vs Japan ..though could argue they are minnows

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                          Confused...didn't Lakai play nearly the whole of the last test vs France Nov 23?
                          Also played well. Has one try vs Japan ..though could argue they are minnows

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                          pakman
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                          @Saguto Came on early after Finau knocked out and played outstandingly.

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @Canes4life any changes will be just covering for injury so not delving too deep into speculative selecting.

                            I think Dmac starting at 15 would be stronger. But agree with giving Love some game time.

                            I do prefer Jacobsen on bench to Kirifi. But would prefer another big body there, which by default is Finau.

                            (FYI it's McAlister.)

                            How does Rassie react?

                            Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.

                            Surely after Finau’s dogshite performances in the NPC and ABs this year puts him firmly out of contention

                            Yep a big no to Finau. It’s either Lakai or Jacobson for me.

                            LOL Fuck off.

                            Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

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                            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            LOL Fuck off.

                            Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

                            Are we watching the same player? Finau has been fucking useless and has complete shit for brains.

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                              Finau's best efforts were against France B, which should be discarded.

                              Parker seems more consistent.

                              SA still controlled a lot of possession and territory, and our defence faded in the last 20 minutes.

                              Don't get too excited yet.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                Finau's best efforts were against France B, which should be discarded.

                                Parker seems more consistent.

                                SA still controlled a lot of possession and territory, and our defence faded in the last 20 minutes.

                                Don't get too excited yet.

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                                @Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                Finau's best efforts were against France B, which should be discarded.

                                Parker seems more consistent.

                                SA still controlled a lot of possession and territory, and our defence faded in the last 20 minutes.

                                Don't get too excited yet.

                                Sititi will be better for playing. Same for Lomax and Williams. Losing Taylor earlier than planned won’t have helped the plan to counter the Bok late surge. Likewise losing Narawa.

                                I would expect ABs to be better conditioned towards the end of the next test. Also helps if play is down the Bok end 😉

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                                  @Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  Finau's best efforts were against France B, which should be discarded.

                                  Parker seems more consistent.

                                  SA still controlled a lot of possession and territory, and our defence faded in the last 20 minutes.

                                  Don't get too excited yet.

                                  Sititi will be better for playing. Same for Lomax and Williams. Losing Taylor earlier than planned won’t have helped the plan to counter the Bok late surge. Likewise losing Narawa.

                                  I would expect ABs to be better conditioned towards the end of the next test. Also helps if play is down the Bok end 😉

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                                  @stodders I have a couple of South African friends where I live. We all seem to be talking our chances down.

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                                    @stodders I have a couple of South African friends where I live. We all seem to be talking our chances down.

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                                    @Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                    @stodders I have a couple of South African friends where I live. We all seem to be talking our chances down.

                                    Boks are 4-time World Cup winners and reigning champions. Can’t hide from being favourites. Got to wear it 😬

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      find someone who loves you like canes4life loves players from Wellington. That's basically fan fic my guy.

                                      Ferner backs player from his own province to get more minutes in the Black jersey. This is not a new trend MY GUY.

                                      Lakai mentions wouldn't even come close to the likes of those that harp on about Blackadder, Sotutu, Dalton etc etc and they aren't even in the squad. At least MY GUY is in the frame. 😆

                                      Aside from Higgins (only a matter of time), players from the Canes that I've backed heavily in the past (Roigard, Lakai, Proctor, Aumua, Love and previously ASav from a young age) have all become ABs, not a bad strike rate for supposed fan fiction.

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                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      f

                                      Aside from Higgins (only a matter of time),

                                      Riley Higgins is not contained by time, time answers to Riley Higgins.

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                                        @Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                        @stodders I have a couple of South African friends where I live. We all seem to be talking our chances down.

                                        Boks are 4-time World Cup winners and reigning champions. Can’t hide from being favourites. Got to wear it 😬

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                                        @stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                        @Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                        @stodders I have a couple of South African friends where I live. We all seem to be talking our chances down.

                                        Boks are 4-time World Cup winners and reigning champions. Can’t hide from being favourites. Got to wear it 😬

                                        Probably should be 6 time winners.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          Rieko may get a reprieve with perhaps not too many changes to the back 3 wanted and at least 1 (and possibly 2) changes already occurring

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          Rieko may get a reprieve with perhaps not too many changes to the back 3 wanted and at least 1 (and possibly 2) changes already occurring

                                          I'd look a Roane to 14, Clarke in to 11

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