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    What is the main reason the Bok dominated territory?

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    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    What is the main reason the Bok dominated territory?

    They were in the AB half more than their own.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    What is the main reason the Bok dominated territory?

    They were in the AB half more than their own.

    BRILLIANT!!!!

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    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    What is the main reason the Bok dominated territory?

    They were in the AB half more than their own.

    BRILLIANT!!!!

    I caught this week's Breakdown.

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    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    What is the main reason the Bok dominated territory?

    It was really only the latter part of the second half that they dominated territory. From memory they recycled the ball more with less errors. I don’t think their kicking game was the main reason.
    They had a better halfback on which also helped.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    What is the main reason the Bok dominated territory?

    It was really only the latter part of the second half that they dominated territory. From memory they recycled the ball more with less errors. I don’t think their kicking game was the main reason.
    They had a better halfback on which also helped.

    Our increased reliance on box kicks, and their decreasing distance gained over time, along with what seemed less success with winning the ball back from those "contestable" kicks, along with the drop in Bok errors you describe, seemed to pin us into our half for a long time

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    We will probably complain about box kicks less when Roigard is back, as he is generally excellent and gets a lot more distance than all of our other 9s.

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    We will probably complain about box kicks less when Roigard is back, as he is generally excellent and gets a lot more distance than all of our other 9s.

    Fakatava is also very good at them, which makes it even stranger with his complete shutout after signing on again.

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    @Bones I can’t figure this one out. Would love for someone to educate me on what he’s missing, or does he just play for the wrong team.

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    @game_film said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Bones I can’t figure this one out. Would love for someone to educate me on what he’s missing, or does he just play for the wrong team.

    Thought he played really well in SR. Built nicely throughout the season, signed with NZR, positive media....then poof, nowhere to be seen.

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    @game_film said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Bones I can’t figure this one out. Would love for someone to educate me on what he’s missing, or does he just play for the wrong team.

    Fakatavaiknow

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    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @game_film said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Bones I can’t figure this one out. Would love for someone to educate me on what he’s missing, or does he just play for the wrong team.

    Fakatavaiknow

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    @MiketheSnow I’ve never connected his name in that way. But now I can’t unhear it. Bravo.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @game_film said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Bones I can’t figure this one out. Would love for someone to educate me on what he’s missing, or does he just play for the wrong team.

    Thought he played really well in SR. Built nicely throughout the season, signed with NZR, positive media....then poof, nowhere to be seen.

    Maybe the coaches are just that spiteful, Sotutu can't get a run because of his phone etiquette, and Fakatava turned Razor down when he tried to woo him to the Crusaders. 🎣

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    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    If the 9 from a lineout/maul does a box kick with long hang time it can potentially come down a couple of metres from touch, making recipient very vulnerable to being bundled into touch.
    Seem to recall Conor Murray being great on that in test one of last Boks Lions series.

    Yep, easier to pin a side on the sideline. Often the theory is not even to catch the box kick, but to nail the receiver and then drive over the ruck.

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    and that's our problem, not distance, but height. We kick it the required distance, but nowhere near high enough to get our chasers to arrive. So it's an uncontested catch and a simple 7-10m return.

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    Or the ball goes into touch, seemingly on purpose, gifting the opposition a lineout 30 metres out from the goal line.

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @game_film said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Bones I can’t figure this one out. Would love for someone to educate me on what he’s missing, or does he just play for the wrong team.

    Thought he played really well in SR. Built nicely throughout the season, signed with NZR, positive media....then poof, nowhere to be seen.

    Maybe the coaches are just that spiteful, Sotutu can't get a run because of his phone etiquette, and Fakatava turned Razor down when he tried to woo him to the Crusaders. 🎣

    Don't forget Dalton: one little headbutt and you're on the outer?

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    and that's our problem, not distance, but height. We kick it the required distance, but nowhere near high enough to get our chasers to arrive. So it's an uncontested catch and a simple 7-10m return.

    This applies to restarts too

    Take a look at the second half restart

    Just awful. Was deepish but it was the opposite of hanging - was flat - allowing the boks to catch it with ease and space to run forward leading to an easy exit.

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    Reece released to Southland. Hard to see him playing for the All Blacks again. Fainga’anuku released too

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