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All Blacks vs Springboks II

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  • B brodean

    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    Interesting to see that Jordan has been demoted from fullback to wing.

    Interesting you see that as a demotion. Played at fullback, did you?

    I think if your preferred position is fullback - which requires more skill, more vision, and has more influence/responsibility - then yes - being moved from your preferred position to a position with less tactical influence is a demotion.

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    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @brodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    Interesting to see that Jordan has been demoted from fullback to wing.

    Interesting you see that as a demotion. Played at fullback, did you?

    I think if your preferred position is fullback - which requires more skill, more vision, and has more influence/responsibility - then yes - being moved from your preferred position to a position with less tactical influence is a demotion.

    It may be - but, I think we'll only be able to tell if it's a demotion after a few more games.

    I'm inclined to think it's probably more like when someone goes on holiday at your work and your boss asks you if you can go back for a week and cover for him (or her) in your old job, because no-one else knows how to do it.

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    • B brodean

      @DurryMexted said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

      @brodean That approach works if you have no interest in winning games in 2-3 years time, or when injuries strike. I think its a critical job of the all blacks coach to have succession & contingency built into their squad and how they select players.
      Similarly the balancing act of keeping fringe players interested in the jersey and not heading off shore

      You don't need to have players four deep in every position to have succession.

      Replace players as needed with the next best cab off the rank has worked fine in the past. He hasn't even been picking the next best cab off the rank in a number of selections. Players like Fihaki and Bell were picked purely on his perceived potential over other players with a long CV of form and rounded game.

      In the modern game injuries naturally force changes without having 'building depth four deep' as the primary number one focus.

      Just managing injuries in the modern game will naturally build depth.

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      @brodean I do understand what you are saying.

      I think that his approach has been reasonably balanced so far, in terms of who has actually been capped. I agree Fihaki was a weird one but he was probably an outlier. If he had been too focused on 'depth for depth sake', i doubt we would have seen Barrett start so many games at 10, or Jordie at 12

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      • KruseK Kruse

        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rassie-on-who-changed-his-mind-on-boks-selection/
        Rassie - "“You know, we are still two in the world, ..."
        Ummm... sorry to break it to you mate, but...

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        @Kruse said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rassie-on-who-changed-his-mind-on-boks-selection/
        Rassie - "“You know, we are still two in the world, ..."
        Ummm... sorry to break it to you mate, but...

        So after the young blokes/ expansive play let the Wallabies win at Ellis Park he went back to a limited gameplan. Which lost at Eden Park so he's now going back to the start..?

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          #261

          I see this game as a bit of a watershed moment for Razor.
          Has a decent set of forwards now; working on the backs. Recognised one or two of the back incumbents may need to move on. Recognised the talents/genius of DMac , need pace on the wings and giving Love game time. Using McCaw head in training for the mental steel. Huge game, good setup.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @Kruse said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rassie-on-who-changed-his-mind-on-boks-selection/
            Rassie - "“You know, we are still two in the world, ..."
            Ummm... sorry to break it to you mate, but...

            So after the young blokes/ expansive play let the Wallabies win at Ellis Park he went back to a limited gameplan. Which lost at Eden Park so he's now going back to the start..?

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            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

            @Kruse said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rassie-on-who-changed-his-mind-on-boks-selection/
            Rassie - "“You know, we are still two in the world, ..."
            Ummm... sorry to break it to you mate, but...

            So after the young blokes/ expansive play let the Wallabies win at Ellis Park he went back to a limited gameplan. Which lost at Eden Park so he's now going back to the start..?

            Innovation. Genius.
            (cough... fishtailing... cough)

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              How ironical would it be if Boks convince ref to be tough on scrums and then we do a number on them?

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              • P pakman

                How ironical would it be if Boks convince ref to be tough on scrums and then we do a number on them?

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                @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                How ironical would it be if Boks convince ref to be tough on scrums and then we do a number on them?

                You would imagine we will be better at scrum time and them better in the line outs with each side prioritising their weakness’s from last week.

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                  Relatively warms and dry tonight - but, windy from the west - that's a cross breeze at the caketin?

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                  • P pakman

                    How ironical would it be if Boks convince ref to be tough on scrums and then we do a number on them?

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                    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                    How ironical would it be if Boks convince ref to be tough on scrums and then we do a number on them?

                    That would be outstanding. I expect a huge improvement tonight

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      Relatively warms and dry tonight - but, windy from the west - that's a cross breeze at the caketin?

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                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                      Relatively warms and dry tonight - but, windy from the west - that's a cross breeze at the caketin?

                      Always seems to swirl around in there

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @Kruse said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rassie-on-who-changed-his-mind-on-boks-selection/
                        Rassie - "“You know, we are still two in the world, ..."
                        Ummm... sorry to break it to you mate, but...

                        So after the young blokes/ expansive play let the Wallabies win at Ellis Park he went back to a limited gameplan. Which lost at Eden Park so he's now going back to the start..?

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                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        @Kruse said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rassie-on-who-changed-his-mind-on-boks-selection/
                        Rassie - "“You know, we are still two in the world, ..."
                        Ummm... sorry to break it to you mate, but...

                        So after the young blokes/ expansive play let the Wallabies win at Ellis Park he went back to a limited gameplan. Which lost at Eden Park so he's now going back to the start..?

                        He has almost dictatorial freedom in the way he selects the team.
                        That many changes against us at home with many new players.
                        Genius or stupid?

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                        • FrankF Frank

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          @Kruse said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rassie-on-who-changed-his-mind-on-boks-selection/
                          Rassie - "“You know, we are still two in the world, ..."
                          Ummm... sorry to break it to you mate, but...

                          So after the young blokes/ expansive play let the Wallabies win at Ellis Park he went back to a limited gameplan. Which lost at Eden Park so he's now going back to the start..?

                          He has almost dictatorial freedom in the way he selects the team.
                          That many changes against us at home with many new players.
                          Genius or stupid?

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                          @Frank Very unusual! As Antipodean says - many of these are the guys he dropped after Round 1.

                          Has he motivated them to do better or undermined their confidence?

                          Doesn't look as strong as last week's team, but I may be living in the past!

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                            Bovidae
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                            I read an article which said that the SA players knew in advance if they were only going to play in game 1.

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                              Special moment for Proctor. He will lead the haka tonight.

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                Special moment for Proctor. He will lead the haka tonight.

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                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                Special moment for Proctor. He will lead the haka tonight.

                                I thiught it would be Billy or Quinn

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                                  #273

                                  Very different emotions for me than last week.

                                  Last week was all about getting a win. That was all that mattered

                                  This week I'm looking for a strong performance from the All Blacks, making the experience really difficult for the Boks and Robertson's side showing how they've grown in the last 14 months.

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                                    Got a feeling the ABs are finally going to release the shackles and attack tonight. Here’s hoping.

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                                      Feeling relaxed and optimistic. ABs by 10-14.

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                                        29kph is a strong wind?

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                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          Feeling relaxed and optimistic. ABs by 10-14.

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                                          @sparky said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          Feeling relaxed and optimistic. ABs by 10-14.

                                          Me too, Sparky!

                                          Hope it's not misplaced! 🙂

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