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Who should be AB captain?

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    I went Taylor, even though it’ll be hard to sub your captain every game

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      I went Taylor, even though it’ll be hard to sub your captain every game

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      @Kirwan said in Who should be AB captain?:

      I went Taylor, even though it’ll be hard to sub your captain every game

      Although I likely agree with this choice, he'll be subbed, so the choices (next poll as I'm sure he'll clean this up) should really be Taylor + Barrett, Taylor + Savea, Taylor + other...

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        I went Taylor, even though it’ll be hard to sub your captain every game

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        @Kirwan said in Who should be AB captain?:

        I went Taylor, even though it’ll be hard to sub your captain every game

        Boks do it 😉

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        • KirwanK Kirwan

          I went Taylor, even though it’ll be hard to sub your captain every game

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          @Kirwan said in Who should be AB captain?:

          I went Taylor, even though it’ll be hard to sub your captain every game

          Why though? SA do it. Why not have one or 2 ready captaincy replacements for 20 mins? Seems a bit archaic to absolutely require your starting captain to go 80

          Taylor all the way for me

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            Maybe have a first half captain and a second half captain. Might sort out the second half lack of direction, focus and energy 😬

            NZ leading the way in innovation once again 😂🙈

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              I'd go for Vaa'i. Yes, he's clapping like an idiot right now but I'm guessing he's playing a certain role in the team.

              He comes across as an intelligent player to me, both on and off the field, and that's what the team needs more than anything else at the moment. Someone sensible on the field who can strategize and make decisions during the game.

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                I think I saw Ardie and Jordie listed as VCs, so Jordie would be another option, but I don't see it really. I went Taylor, he's a class act on and off the field.

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                  16 votes so far and no one has picked the current captain

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                    @Kirwan said in Who should be AB captain?:

                    I went Taylor, even though it’ll be hard to sub your captain every game

                    Why though? SA do it. Why not have one or 2 ready captaincy replacements for 20 mins? Seems a bit archaic to absolutely require your starting captain to go 80

                    Taylor all the way for me

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                    @voodoo said in Who should be AB captain?:

                    @Kirwan said in Who should be AB captain?:

                    I went Taylor, even though it’ll be hard to sub your captain every game

                    Why though? SA do it. Why not have one or 2 ready captaincy replacements for 20 mins? Seems a bit archaic to absolutely require your starting captain to go 80

                    Taylor all the way for me

                    Me too, but I'm more interested in who finishes. I can't see another person beyond Ardie. TBH, I'd have Barrett in the 23, but I don't rate him at all as a captain - he was a much better player when he was a YC/RC magnet. As a captain, the dangerous parts of his game have been squeezed out - which should be good - but all we are left with is an undersized lock.

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                      @voodoo said in Who should be AB captain?:

                      @Kirwan said in Who should be AB captain?:

                      I went Taylor, even though it’ll be hard to sub your captain every game

                      Why though? SA do it. Why not have one or 2 ready captaincy replacements for 20 mins? Seems a bit archaic to absolutely require your starting captain to go 80

                      Taylor all the way for me

                      Me too, but I'm more interested in who finishes. I can't see another person beyond Ardie. TBH, I'd have Barrett in the 23, but I don't rate him at all as a captain - he was a much better player when he was a YC/RC magnet. As a captain, the dangerous parts of his game have been squeezed out - which should be good - but all we are left with is an undersized lock.

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                      @gt12 said in Who should be AB captain?:

                      @voodoo said in Who should be AB captain?:

                      @Kirwan said in Who should be AB captain?:

                      I went Taylor, even though it’ll be hard to sub your captain every game

                      Why though? SA do it. Why not have one or 2 ready captaincy replacements for 20 mins? Seems a bit archaic to absolutely require your starting captain to go 80

                      Taylor all the way for me

                      Me too, but I'm more interested in who finishes. I can't see another person beyond Ardie. TBH, I'd have Barrett in the 23, but I don't rate him at all as a captain - he was a much better player when he was a YC/RC magnet. As a captain, the dangerous parts of his game have been squeezed out - which should be good - but all we are left with is an undersized lock.

                      100% agree with this. We aren’t seeing the real Scott Barrett at the moment.

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                        Taylor for now. Jordie, Roigard, Sititi, as our 3 new Vice-captains and potential longterm options to succeed Taylor in a couple years time.

                        Savea, B.Barrett, S.Barrett, dropped from the starting team.

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                          I think Savea off the bench as an impact sub makes sense. His athleticism would be able to make a real difference against tiring defences. Plus he covers midfield as a hybrid player, so ABs can go for a 6-2 bench split 😉

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                            16 votes so far and no one has picked the current captain

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                              @gt12 said in Who should be AB captain?:

                              @voodoo said in Who should be AB captain?:

                              @Kirwan said in Who should be AB captain?:

                              I went Taylor, even though it’ll be hard to sub your captain every game

                              Why though? SA do it. Why not have one or 2 ready captaincy replacements for 20 mins? Seems a bit archaic to absolutely require your starting captain to go 80

                              Taylor all the way for me

                              Me too, but I'm more interested in who finishes. I can't see another person beyond Ardie. TBH, I'd have Barrett in the 23, but I don't rate him at all as a captain - he was a much better player when he was a YC/RC magnet. As a captain, the dangerous parts of his game have been squeezed out - which should be good - but all we are left with is an undersized lock.

                              100% agree with this. We aren’t seeing the real Scott Barrett at the moment.

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                              @stodders said in Who should be AB captain?:

                              @gt12 said in Who should be AB captain?:

                              @voodoo said in Who should be AB captain?:

                              @Kirwan said in Who should be AB captain?:

                              I went Taylor, even though it’ll be hard to sub your captain every game

                              Why though? SA do it. Why not have one or 2 ready captaincy replacements for 20 mins? Seems a bit archaic to absolutely require your starting captain to go 80

                              Taylor all the way for me

                              Me too, but I'm more interested in who finishes. I can't see another person beyond Ardie. TBH, I'd have Barrett in the 23, but I don't rate him at all as a captain - he was a much better player when he was a YC/RC magnet. As a captain, the dangerous parts of his game have been squeezed out - which should be good - but all we are left with is an undersized lock.

                              100% agree with this. We aren’t seeing the real Scott Barrett at the moment.

                              He was a savage pre-captaincy.

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                                I think Savea off the bench as an impact sub makes sense. His athleticism would be able to make a real difference against tiring defences. Plus he covers midfield as a hybrid player, so ABs can go for a 6-2 bench split 😉

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                                @stodders said in Who should be AB captain?:

                                I think Savea off the bench as an impact sub makes sense. His athleticism would be able to make a real difference against tiring defences. Plus he covers midfield as a hybrid player, so ABs can go for a 6-2 bench split 😉

                                You start putting him on the bench and he will be looking for an early release and go off to Japan.
                                These guys think they are the team.

                                They cant countenance being dropped.

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                                  @stodders said in Who should be AB captain?:

                                  I think Savea off the bench as an impact sub makes sense. His athleticism would be able to make a real difference against tiring defences. Plus he covers midfield as a hybrid player, so ABs can go for a 6-2 bench split 😉

                                  You start putting him on the bench and he will be looking for an early release and go off to Japan.
                                  These guys think they are the team.

                                  They cant countenance being dropped.

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                                  @Jet said in Who should be AB captain?:

                                  @stodders said in Who should be AB captain?:

                                  I think Savea off the bench as an impact sub makes sense. His athleticism would be able to make a real difference against tiring defences. Plus he covers midfield as a hybrid player, so ABs can go for a 6-2 bench split 😉

                                  You start putting him on the bench and he will be looking for an early release and go off to Japan.
                                  These guys think they are the team.

                                  They cant countenance being dropped.

                                  Then that is what needs to happen. A coach can't be held hostage because the NZRU have signed a player up. Players form goes up and down. The jersey is there to be earned, not owned.

                                  If a player decides they don't want to fight for their jersey, it tells you a lot about their character and where their motivation lies. It probably would be a good test for Razor - drop the leadership group and see which ones come back harder and which ones seek an exit.

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                                    I voted for Scooter on the condition they drop his brother.

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                                      @stodders said in Who should be AB captain?:

                                      I think Savea off the bench as an impact sub makes sense. His athleticism would be able to make a real difference against tiring defences. Plus he covers midfield as a hybrid player, so ABs can go for a 6-2 bench split 😉

                                      You start putting him on the bench and he will be looking for an early release and go off to Japan.
                                      These guys think they are the team.

                                      They cant countenance being dropped.

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                                      @Jet said in Who should be AB captain?:

                                      @stodders said in Who should be AB captain?:

                                      I think Savea off the bench as an impact sub makes sense. His athleticism would be able to make a real difference against tiring defences. Plus he covers midfield as a hybrid player, so ABs can go for a 6-2 bench split 😉

                                      You start putting him on the bench and he will be looking for an early release and go off to Japan.
                                      These guys think they are the team.

                                      They cant countenance being dropped.

                                      I'm not so sure. He might enjoy not having his body beaten up over 80 minutes each week-he's not getting any younger.

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                                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                        I voted for Scooter on the condition they drop his brother.

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in Who should be AB captain?:

                                        I voted for Scooter on the condition they drop his brother.

                                        That'll mean Jordie gets the chop now. Be more precise please ACT!

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                                          Notable that none of the SR captains are in the best AB XV. Proctor is one of four Hurricanes co-captains but Kirifi is their real captain.

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