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  • Young HamiltonsY Offline
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    Young Hamiltons
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    The problem with the All Blacks:

    1. There are good coaches in NZ but their egos get in the way to the demise of NZ Rugby.
    2. Wake up you cannot run a professional game with amateur rules.
    3. Pick on form period
    4. It begins at the top..
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    • Young HamiltonsY Young Hamiltons

      The problem with the All Blacks:

      1. There are good coaches in NZ but their egos get in the way to the demise of NZ Rugby.
      2. Wake up you cannot run a professional game with amateur rules.
      3. Pick on form period
      4. It begins at the top..
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      kidcalder
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      #6398

      @Young-Hamiltons said in All Blacks 2025:

      The problem with the All Blacks:

      1. There are good coaches in NZ but their egos get in the way to the demise of NZ Rugby.
      2. Wake up you cannot run a professional game with amateur rules.
      3. Pick on form period
      4. It begins at the top..

      Ouiii coming in here talking sense

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        Young Hamiltons
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        A backline of:
        9 Grant Williams
        10 Manie Libbok
        11 Kurt Leigh Arendse
        12 Damian Willemse
        13 Canan Moodie
        14 Cheslin Kolby
        15 Warwick Galant
        Would run rings around any backline and interesting part they probably grew up watching the All Blacks. And there are more of them running around all over South Africa...and I support the All Blacks.

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          My profile pic is the home of Young Hamiltons...where the Mighty All Blacks played in 1996

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          • R reprobate

            He's gotta be the hero, thats why god gave him deez mad skillz.
            Being mates off the field is fine. Parading it on social media after a record flogging is not.

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            kiwiinmelb
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            #6401

            @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

            He's gotta be the hero, thats why god gave him deez mad skillz.
            Being mates off the field is fine. Parading it on social media after a record flogging is not.

            That’s like a day or two after the flogging , allblacks put up a feel good post on Insta about the Barrett brothers have now apparently played 300 games between them .

            Like we give a fuck at the moment .

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            • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

              @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

              He's gotta be the hero, thats why god gave him deez mad skillz.
              Being mates off the field is fine. Parading it on social media after a record flogging is not.

              That’s like a day or two after the flogging , allblacks put up a feel good post on Insta about the Barrett brothers have now apparently played 300 games between them .

              Like we give a fuck at the moment .

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              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

              @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

              He's gotta be the hero, thats why god gave him deez mad skillz.
              Being mates off the field is fine. Parading it on social media after a record flogging is not.

              That’s like a day or two after the flogging , allblacks put up a feel good post on Insta about the Barrett brothers have now apparently played 300 games between them .

              Like we give a fuck at the moment .

              Especially when about a hundred of them aren’t really deserved

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              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                @junior said in All Blacks 2025:

                It's performative and lacking any authenticity. It feels like these guys - players and coaches - often say things because they think that's something that sounds like what needs to be said.

                Don't think it lacks authenticity . Kolisi & Savea have regularly posted about their close friendship with each other and their families for years. It's just who they both are.

                No excuse for that Caketin performance, mind.

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                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                @junior said in All Blacks 2025:

                It's performative and lacking any authenticity. It feels like these guys - players and coaches - often say things because they think that's something that sounds like what needs to be said.

                Don't think it lacks authenticity . Kolisi & Savea have regularly posted about their close friendship with each other and their families for years. It's just who they both are.

                No excuse for that Caketin performance, mind.

                I am sure their friendship is authentic - but that is not what I was talking about.

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                  Jet
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                  Some good insights from Eddie Jones and Ewan McKenzie on where we are going wrong.

                  Interesting analysis from people who dont have skin in the NZ game.

                  "Barrett seems loathe to take the ball as a first receiver".

                  "the ball out the back in phase play is going to static players".

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                  • J Jet

                    Some good insights from Eddie Jones and Ewan McKenzie on where we are going wrong.

                    Interesting analysis from people who dont have skin in the NZ game.

                    "Barrett seems loathe to take the ball as a first receiver".

                    "the ball out the back in phase play is going to static players".

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                    Bones
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                    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                    the ball out the back in phase play is going to static players

                    This is the absolute worst part of any of our attacking play. Ball is constantly distributed to deep players standing still, even when it goes 2 or 3 out. What what why? Where are the players in motion? It's about the worst way to beat most defences and especially the rush.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                      the ball out the back in phase play is going to static players

                      This is the absolute worst part of any of our attacking play. Ball is constantly distributed to deep players standing still, even when it goes 2 or 3 out. What what why? Where are the players in motion? It's about the worst way to beat most defences and especially the rush.

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                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                      the ball out the back in phase play is going to static players

                      This is the absolute worst part of any of our attacking play. Ball is constantly distributed to deep players standing still, even when it goes 2 or 3 out. What what why? Where are the players in motion? It's about the worst way to beat most defences and especially the rush.

                      It's almost as if they are inviting the tackle to tie in opposition players and open up space behind the defence which can be exploited by a chip kick.

                      Oh, hang on...

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                        the ball out the back in phase play is going to static players

                        This is the absolute worst part of any of our attacking play. Ball is constantly distributed to deep players standing still, even when it goes 2 or 3 out. What what why? Where are the players in motion? It's about the worst way to beat most defences and especially the rush.

                        It's almost as if they are inviting the tackle to tie in opposition players and open up space behind the defence which can be exploited by a chip kick.

                        Oh, hang on...

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                        #6407

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                        the ball out the back in phase play is going to static players

                        This is the absolute worst part of any of our attacking play. Ball is constantly distributed to deep players standing still, even when it goes 2 or 3 out. What what why? Where are the players in motion? It's about the worst way to beat most defences and especially the rush.

                        It's almost as if they are inviting the tackle to tie in opposition players and open up space behind the defence which can be exploited by a chip kick.

                        Oh, hang on...

                        Relying on that superior fitness to be able to run twice as far as any other team. We do broncos, so...

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                          the ball out the back in phase play is going to static players

                          This is the absolute worst part of any of our attacking play. Ball is constantly distributed to deep players standing still, even when it goes 2 or 3 out. What what why? Where are the players in motion? It's about the worst way to beat most defences and especially the rush.

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                          mohikamo
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                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Ball is constantly distributed to deep players standing still

                          Lack of respect for the gain line . . . IN A TEST MATCH AGAINST THE SPRINGBOKS IN 2025!!!!
                          What do we call that?
                          Must be arrogance, or naievity, or is it stupidity?

                          Stuck in a time warp; tryin to get away with playing like they did ten years ago.
                          When all the other teams have made the correct adjustments in the meantime.

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                          • R reprobate

                            He's gotta be the hero, thats why god gave him deez mad skillz.
                            Being mates off the field is fine. Parading it on social media after a record flogging is not.

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                            brodean
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                            #6409

                            @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

                            He's gotta be the hero, thats why god gave him deez mad skillz.
                            Being mates off the field is fine. Parading it on social media after a record flogging is not.

                            I don't see how that's relevant to why the defence was so shite, why the playmakers couldnt make shite, and the lineout fell apart.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              NZ is a small country, and people talk, a lot. It is also a very mediocre country, mostly run by low potential people. Not quite a Kakistocracy, but getting there. Anyway, the rumours are flying, but some of them are good.

                              Scott Hansen is not rated by many of the players, and his communication is poor. The forgotten backs coach is fed up with Robertson, and has been shut out.

                              Perhaps of most interest for us posters is that the coaches regard DMac as an idiot who cannot follow instructions, and think that Bueaden Barrett's kicking game is excellent, and if you do not appreciate it, then you do not understand rugby.

                              Make of that what you will.

                              I would not say that it bodes well.

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                              Frank
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                              @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Scott Hansen is not rated by many of the players, and his communication is poor.

                              Fuckin called it from the 1st time I saw him interviewed.
                              Being a guy that falls for the hype quite often, the fact that even I thought he came across as a cock is quite telling.

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                                Frank
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                                I don't care anymore. Two years of the media blowing Razor, culminating in our worst loss ever. No discernible progress and a seeming drop in our core skills. The problem with the team is much like NZ itself, woke and insular with a distinct lack of brainpower and mongrel in the coaching group, players and even media. It's a giant PR exercise with everyone sucking each other off.

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                                • F Frank

                                  I don't care anymore. Two years of the media blowing Razor, culminating in our worst loss ever. No discernible progress and a seeming drop in our core skills. The problem with the team is much like NZ itself, woke and insular with a distinct lack of brainpower and mongrel in the coaching group, players and even media. It's a giant PR exercise with everyone sucking each other off.

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                                  sparky
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                                  #6412

                                  @Frank My feelings are similar.

                                  I'll catch up with the highlights of the Bledisloe Cup game afterward, but I am not going to waste any real time or energy with the All Blacks this week. I feel utterly betrayed by the pathetic ragbag they've become. They are All Blacks in name only as far as I'm concerned.

                                  I'd obviously still prefer the ABs to win, but I won't be too bothered if we lose the Eden Park record or even the Bledisloe Cup. It will hasten the demise of those clearly not up to the job in terms of brains and ruthlessness.

                                  Our Captain, First Five, Head Coach, his Assistants and our CEO all need to go and the sooner the better.

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                                    Frank
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                                    Absolutely.
                                    There's no redeeming this team until the coaching group and certain senior players are gone.

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      @Frank My feelings are similar.

                                      I'll catch up with the highlights of the Bledisloe Cup game afterward, but I am not going to waste any real time or energy with the All Blacks this week. I feel utterly betrayed by the pathetic ragbag they've become. They are All Blacks in name only as far as I'm concerned.

                                      I'd obviously still prefer the ABs to win, but I won't be too bothered if we lose the Eden Park record or even the Bledisloe Cup. It will hasten the demise of those clearly not up to the job in terms of brains and ruthlessness.

                                      Our Captain, First Five, Head Coach, his Assistants and our CEO all need to go and the sooner the better.

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                                      mariner4life
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                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Frank My feelings are similar.

                                      I'll catch up with the highlights of the Bledisloe Cup game afterward, but I am not going to waste any real time or energy with the All Blacks this week. I feel utterly betrayed by the pathetic ragbag they've become. They are All Blacks in name only as far as I'm concerned.

                                      I'd obviously still prefer the ABs to win, but I won't be too bothered if we lose the Eden Park record or even the Bledisloe Cup. It will hasten the demise of those clearly not up to the job in terms of brains and ruthlessness.

                                      Our Captain, First Five, Head Coach, his Assistants and our CEO all need to go and the sooner the better.

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Frank My feelings are similar.

                                        I'll catch up with the highlights of the Bledisloe Cup game afterward, but I am not going to waste any real time or energy with the All Blacks this week. I feel utterly betrayed by the pathetic ragbag they've become. They are All Blacks in name only as far as I'm concerned.

                                        I'd obviously still prefer the ABs to win, but I won't be too bothered if we lose the Eden Park record or even the Bledisloe Cup. It will hasten the demise of those clearly not up to the job in terms of brains and ruthlessness.

                                        Our Captain, First Five, Head Coach, his Assistants and our CEO all need to go and the sooner the better.

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                                        ACT Crusader
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                                        @mariner4life I’ll never forget that call. Good ol Mario from Doncaster. There are a few funny regular callers on Melbs sports talkback.

                                        That massive 100+ point loss to the Swans was the year before the Tigers won the flag. It can turnaround….

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                                          mariner4life
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                                          No listen, no listen...

                                          Its the ultimate nuffie call. Sparky is hitting those nuffie areas

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