All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I
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Seems alot not involved, guess those in camp have been pulled from npc: Clarke, Carter, Reece, Leicester, Reiko, ALB, Tupaea, Proctor.
They can't all be named...
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@pourfasse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
No more BB at 10 please. Give Lowe some time. The year is almost done.
I probably would have classified my opinion as 'anyone but BB', but an aging 2nd-string Highlanders winger getting the call-up to slot in for the ABs at 10 is pushing it.
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Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.
@george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.
They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.
The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.
It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.
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@george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.
They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.
The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.
It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.
They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.
The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.
It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.
I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.
Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.
I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.
They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.
The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.
It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.
I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.
Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.
I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.
They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.
The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.
It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.
I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.
Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.
I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.
Completely agree but also feel conflicted because those that stayed here dont deserve their place either. Its not like he is knocking Conrad Smith out of the squad.
Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.
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@game_film said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Big Jim in witness protection? Just let him play
broken arm.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.
They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.
The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.
It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.
I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.
Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.
I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.
Completely agree but also feel conflicted because those that stayed here dont deserve their place either. Its not like he is knocking Conrad Smith out of the squad.
Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.
They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.
The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.
It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.
I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.
Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.
I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.
Completely agree but also feel conflicted because those that stayed here dont deserve their place either. Its not like he is knocking Conrad Smith out of the squad.
Rieko, ALB, Proctor.......all crap.
They're not that crap though, not really.
Rieko was good in the last WC, Proctor has had a great Super season, and ALB is a long-term AB - he may be past his best, but he's not actually a terrible footy player.
My point being that none of them are as bad as they are being made to look in our backline - which suggest the problem is not whoever plays at centre - and that means parachuting in Leicester solves fuck-all. -
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.
They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.
The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.
It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.
I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.
Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.
I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.
They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.
The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.
It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.
I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.
Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.
I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.
He’s not those guys.
Shit he’s not even Richie Mounga…..remind me what amazing thing LF has done at the top level against the best teams ?
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@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@george33 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Jamie Wall has said Leicester has had his eligibility rushed thru so if correct he must be in 23 , my understanding was that he would only be made available if injury to our midfield and wings was severe.
They 'rushed through' Fainga'anuku's eligibility weeks ago when they first brought him into the squad. He's been eligible to play for the All Blacks ever since then.
The All Blacks eligibility laws have always been fluid and he was always going to be able to be brought into the squad if Razor pushed for it hard enough. Evidently he and NZR compromised.
It will be exactly the same when Mo'unga returns to NZ. NZR have said he's not eligible immediately upon his return. If need be, however, he will become eligible.
I really dislike this. Bending the rules for a guy who has never even really been a first choice AB, when we don't have any midfield injuries, plenty of wingers available, and he hasn't even played a Super game since returning.
Encouraging guys to go overseas and come back for the WC, or letting them fast-track back in because a coach likes them - it cheapens everything, shits on those who have stayed, and is inarguably to our long-term detriment.
I'd be hard against it for a Carter or McCaw. For these haven't-beens, it can fuck all the way off.
He’s not those guys.
Shit he’s not even Richie Mounga…..remind me what amazing thing LF has done at the top level against the best teams ?
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This bending over backwards for Leicester Fai'anganuku better be worth it. How has a 7 test AB demanded this much attention....
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.
Razor has been littering and, littering and, littering and……..smoking the reefer
The rule bending for a guy with SEVEN AB caps ( two of which are against powerhouses Namibia and Uruguay ) is cringeworthy.
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This bending over backwards for Leicester Fai'anganuku better be worth it. How has a 7 test AB demanded this much attention....
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.
Razor has been littering and, littering and, littering and……..smoking the reefer
The rule bending for a guy with SEVEN AB caps ( two of which are against powerhouses Namibia and Uruguay ) is cringeworthy.
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.
Razor has been littering and, littering and, littering and……..smoking the reefer
The rule bending for a guy with SEVEN AB caps ( two of which are against powerhouses Namibia and Uruguay ) is cringeworthy.
And were any of those tests played in the midfield or were they all on the wing?
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.
Razor has been littering and, littering and, littering and……..smoking the reefer
The rule bending for a guy with SEVEN AB caps ( two of which are against powerhouses Namibia and Uruguay ) is cringeworthy.
And were any of those tests played in the midfield or were they all on the wing?
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.
Razor has been littering and, littering and, littering and……..smoking the reefer
The rule bending for a guy with SEVEN AB caps ( two of which are against powerhouses Namibia and Uruguay ) is cringeworthy.
And were any of those tests played in the midfield or were they all on the wing?
Without checking I’m 100% sure they were all on the wing. Excellent preparation for a future at 12 or 13 at test level.
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@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.
Razor has been littering and, littering and, littering and……..smoking the reefer
The rule bending for a guy with SEVEN AB caps ( two of which are against powerhouses Namibia and Uruguay ) is cringeworthy.
And were any of those tests played in the midfield or were they all on the wing?
Without checking I’m 100% sure they were all on the wing. Excellent preparation for a future at 12 or 13 at test level.
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 up vote for the Super Troopers reference.
Razor has been littering and, littering and, littering and……..smoking the reefer
The rule bending for a guy with SEVEN AB caps ( two of which are against powerhouses Namibia and Uruguay ) is cringeworthy.
And were any of those tests played in the midfield or were they all on the wing?
Without checking I’m 100% sure they were all on the wing. Excellent preparation for a future at 12 or 13 at test level.
A bit like the calls to play Love at First five with no games in that position at First five and only 6 at SR level.
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With over 50 games in the MF for Ta$man and Toulon Leicester Fai'anganuku has played, he has enough experience in that position to be tried there for the ABs.
If the criteria is but not at international Level then no new players can ever gets selected for the ABs as they have never played there.
