All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
We are a dreadful Rugby team.
Razor has to go.
I suspect he now stays until the RWC.
But we need a bit of a clear out of the assistants and to get coaches with more international experience.
2+ defeats incoming on EOYT.
Please let it be Wales God
Upvote cos you're a great bloke.
If Wales win, Robertson is gone. No ifs or buts. This isn’t Gatland’s grand slam winners.
How bout if Scotland win ?
Hmmmmm. Tough one.
Scotland are at a similar level to Argentina IMO. Is it acceptable for the ABs to lose to Argentina?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@brodean but it does.
Not according to any rugby law around mitigation and penalties.
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@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
We are a dreadful Rugby team.
Razor has to go.
I suspect he now stays until the RWC.
But we need a bit of a clear out of the assistants and to get coaches with more international experience.
2+ defeats incoming on EOYT.
Please let it be Wales God
Upvote cos you're a great bloke.
If Wales win, Robertson is gone. No ifs or buts. This isn’t Gatland’s grand slam winners.
How bout if Scotland win ?
Hmmmmm. Tough one.
Scotland are at a similar level to Argentina IMO. Is it acceptable for the ABs to lose to Argentina?
Apparently so
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@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
We are a dreadful Rugby team.
Razor has to go.
I suspect he now stays until the RWC.
But we need a bit of a clear out of the assistants and to get coaches with more international experience.
2+ defeats incoming on EOYT.
Please let it be Wales God
Upvote cos you're a great bloke.
If Wales win, Robertson is gone. No ifs or buts. This isn’t Gatland’s grand slam winners.
How bout if Scotland win ?
Hmmmmm. Tough one.
Scotland are at a similar level to Argentina IMO. Is it acceptable for the ABs to lose to Argentina?
How many RWC semi's has Scotland made compared to Argentina? They are simply not of the same pedigree when Argentina puts their top team out.
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@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
We are a dreadful Rugby team.
Razor has to go.
I suspect he now stays until the RWC.
But we need a bit of a clear out of the assistants and to get coaches with more international experience.
2+ defeats incoming on EOYT.
Please let it be Wales God
Upvote cos you're a great bloke.
If Wales win, Robertson is gone. No ifs or buts. This isn’t Gatland’s grand slam winners.
How bout if Scotland win ?
Hmmmmm. Tough one.
Scotland are at a similar level to Argentina IMO. Is it acceptable for the ABs to lose to Argentina?
How many RWC semi's has Scotland made compared to Argentina? They are simply not of the same pedigree when Argentina puts their top team out.
Just the one back when the Hastings bros, Calder, Jeffrey, Sole, Armstrong etc were running around. Magic days.
But the point that @stodders makes is extremely accurate when you consider that in 22 tests played between them they're 11 apiece.
I will concede they have lifted more than Scotland for crucial RWC games though.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
2+ defeats incoming on EOYT.
Please let it be Wales God
Oh don't worry, Wales is always good for 2+ defeats. It's the wins that are unexpected.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Could have been very different
But it wasn't
Come on, do better than that.
I get sick of the "we could have lost" reactions.
We didn't.
Could we have been better? Yes
Are Aussie a good team? Yes
Do Aussie have greatest absolute bestest coach in the Wooorld! (other than Rassie)? Apparently
Did we lose? No
Great team with awesomest coach loses to rabble with surf numpty in charge.
Plenty predicting we would lose before the game, so for many we exceeded expectations.
Do I want us winning by 40 every time? Yes, but I'll take a 9 point margin, especially given we left points out there.
The only true metric is the scoreboard.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
The only true metric is the scoreboard.
Yes. There is so much whinging on here that I shudder to think what would have happened if we lost. Australia are well-coached and have some good players. Their talent and depth in the loosies and their new wings are impressive compared to ours and their pack is competitive. It was never going to be a walkover.
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oh and I forgot to say, they've improved their midfield as well (although I wonder if Sua'ali'i is better at midfield or as a fullback).
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I think the big take away from the game should be copying how Australia make so many metres through the close channels and the forwards. Australia really was their own worst enemy with missed touch, penalties etc. When they actually held onto the ball, they really did make it look simple.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
The reffing was random as fuck, and to be honest I reckon he fucked the aussies pretty badly.
I watched the game with a couple of Aussies and on many occasions we were agreeing with them that a decision was a bit rough. Felt strange not to be arguing with them.
But, we've been fucked over by French ref's enough in the past that I don't really mind a square up.
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@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Past horizontal. No penalty. Ok Marius
Law clarification please.
Thought it was ok if tacklers brought him back horizontal.
Thanks in anticipation.
JB didn't bring him back to horizontal. The only thing that stopped JOCs head slamming into the ground was JOCs hand..
It's well established that if you prevent your own injury, it doesn't meet the threshold. Referees shouldn't be asking "what if" except where a try would probably have been scored.
We've been on the other end of such adjudications.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I think the big take away from the game should be copying how Australia make so many metres through the close channels and the forwards. Australia really was their own worst enemy with missed touch, penalties etc. When they actually held onto the ball, they really did make it look simple.
With a lot of players who have been made to look like donkeys in the Test arena, which suggests quality coaching is important!
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@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
The reffing was random as fuck, and to be honest I reckon he fucked the aussies pretty badly.
I watched the game with a couple of Aussies and on many occasions we were agreeing with them that a decision was a bit rough. Felt strange not to be arguing with them.
But, we've been fucked over by French ref's enough in the past that I don't really mind a square up.
Apart from the possible maul PT and associated YC, I can't think of many obvious ones where the AR/ TMO and ref were wrong. Had Piardi not awarded that try we may well have been on the receiving end, so that's some luck there.
But the Aussies were transgressing at ruck and maul time and not getting penalised as we (rightfully) were.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I think the big take away from the game should be copying how Australia make so many metres through the close channels and the forwards. Australia really was their own worst enemy with missed touch, penalties etc. When they actually held onto the ball, they really did make it look simple.
With a lot of players who have been made to look like donkeys in the Test arena, which suggests quality coaching is important!
It is a trade mark of his teams, Ireland were the same. Do the basics well, win set piece, make metres with ball in hand close to the ruck, defend well and the rest takes care of itself. The Wallabies unfortunately just let themselves down with discipline, simple errors and missed too many tackles.
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Good win despite the stupid, worn-out old game plan.
I think the focus of the AB's kicking game is to test their own defense under pressure in their own half. Quite brilliant, really. By the time the next World Cup rolls around, they should be experts at defending the line with scrambling defense.
