All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II
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@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Wouldn't be surprised if that backline gets sliced up by the Wallabies. Wasn’t Tupaea at 13 in that last quarter against SA?
Lets see how it plays out in reality.
There could be a fair bit of positional interchange depending on the game state.
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@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Wouldn't be surprised if that backline gets sliced up by the Wallabies. Wasn’t Tupaea at 13 in that last quarter against SA?
No, Proctor was.
QT was at 2nd 5 and Jordie moved to fullback shifting Jordan to the wing with Clarke off.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Yeah, I think about a month ago I suggested that Quinn at 13 was worth a try, but that we should be ready for some very average reads as he isn't a natural 13.
He already has a tendency to miss a lot of tackles, and I would expect that won't change at 13.
I think he does have some speed to cover the outside break, so it will be interesting to see how they try to manipulate him and get him on the outside shoulder as that is usually his weakness.
This week with Clarke out, I'd expect a lot more air attack from the Aussies. Last week Jordie went well covering there, I'll be interested to see what Schmidt has dreamed up to exploit the way they were using him on the wing in that situation.
It's interesting that you mentioned Reece, as Carter looks like a fast, explosive Reece to me. I don't mean that in a bad way.
Overall both the Wallabies and ABs didn’t kick much in that last game. Both teams clearly wanted to play with the ball more. The Wallabies only kicked the ball 13 times and I can’t see them suddenly wanting to kick more, unless the weather turns wet.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Wouldn't be surprised if that backline gets sliced up by the Wallabies. Wasn’t Tupaea at 13 in that last quarter against SA?
No, Proctor was.
QT was at 2nd 5 and Jordie moved to fullback shifting Jordan to the wing with Clarke off.
Are you speaking about the same game? Clarke didn't play.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Tupaea at 13 is a big call, it gives me the heebies when he is there at the Chiefs as he looks lost.
However, Proctor hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire and if they can get Tupaea bedded in at 13, he becomes a very useful squaddie.
Think Tupaea deserves a start but don't think he should be playing at 13, would rather Proctor or Ioane there.
Glad to see Fainga'anuku given a go ahead of Ioane and Reece.
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The best thing about that backline is it looks like they’ve definitely moved on from Reece and seems like they’ve had enough of Lienert-Brown too, given they’re prepared to play Tupaea at centre ahead of him. Just need the other first five options to do enough to make Robertson (or whoever picks the backs, because apparently he doesn’t actually select the team) realise Barrett’s not up to it.
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@game_film said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I guess the Sevu Reece era has also concluded?
Such a shame it took them so many tests to realise what was so obvious to most of us.
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@ShaquilleOatmeal thing is, Dmac needs to Fire otherwise they will revert to BB.
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@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Tupaea at 13 is a big call, it gives me the heebies when he is there at the Chiefs as he looks lost.
However, Proctor hasn't exactly been setting the world on fire and if they can get Tupaea bedded in at 13, he becomes a very useful squaddie.
Interesting to see how he gets on positionally but one thing I like about himself and Leicester, regardless of the number on their backs, is they rarely go backwards with ball in hand.
Roigard, Leroy,DMAC and Jordan bring the scalpel.
Jordie, Quinn and Leicester bring the hammer.
Everyone from 9-15 in that lineup is a threat in one form or another.
Reece, Christie,Proctor, Rieko, ALB and Beaudy were neither hammer nor scalpel.
Jordie is a hammer with a broken handle.
Roigard is a hammer AND a scalpel
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Damn they are still haunted by McCaw 10 years on
I refuse to believe McCaw hasn't played for ten years. It can't be. I am not that old.
Topic: yes, quite the match is coming up, indeed
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@Tordah LOL yeah I know, I had to google it just to double confirm it was TEN years
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@game_film said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
I guess the Sevu Reece era has also concluded?
Fuck, one would hope.
Substandard player that beats up women, no idea why the hell he got so many tests
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@Tordah said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Damn they are still haunted by McCaw 10 years on
I refuse to believe McCaw hasn't played for ten years. It can't be. I am not that old.
Topic: yes, quite the match is coming up, indeed
If anything reading this makes me realise what an absolute traitor Ma'a Nonu is to New Zealand Rugby. To have the gall to retire from the All Blacks on top and then play professionally FOR ANOTHER TEN YEARS for other teams !!!!!!
My mate lives in Perth and is going to the game, I know Australia is big but he informed me that it takes FORTY ONE hours to drive from there to Sydney. Fucken hell, to think I griped about having to drive the long way to the Coromandel a couple of years back after all the slips from the flooding.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:
Why am I so worried that Robertson's squad will spend most of the week "having fun in Perth"
The west coast surfing is good I hear.
according to the fat-bottomed armchair experts on this forum Perth only has the airport going for it, so the ABs will be fine...
Specifically the departure terminal
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Interesting backline. Thank god we finally get to see Roigard-McKenzie, that's the combination we've been waiting way too long for. I think I'm right in saying that Ireland last year is the only big game they've played together? Roigard's kicking and playmaking should take a bit of pressure off McKenzie to do everything for 80 mins, which was an issue late in games last year when combined with poor use of the bench in general.
Leicester may be a good selection, as I think he is effectively an extra hard runner in the forwards. Clarke is a better winger, much better in the air - but if our forward pack lacks runners (and it probably will) then LF may be pretty useful. With him and Carter as wings, the Aussies should attack us in the air, and run at Leicester as they do have pace - and us with Tupaea who isn't a usual 13 - so there are obvious points for them to attack.
Tupaea at centre is an interesting one. He was good enough in Super rugby to deserve a decent shot in tests, and with Jordie locked in at 12 I can see the 'best players on the field' attraction. I don't think he's really a natural centre, and after giving Proctor a decent run and seeing his defense improve, pulling him out and putting in a guy who is very likely to have similar defensive issues at first seems risky.
Not sure why they've picked Ioane, as the starting backline looks a good opportunity to go 6-2 with just Ratima and Love. -
Concerned with Tupaea playing out of position against quality backs and Faingaʻanuku who was a bang average winger on defence.
But a backline reshuffle and opportunities for bench players will amount to naught if our forward pack are meek kittens.
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