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    I see Vai has announced he’s gone for the season, having done his knee at training on Thursday before Bledisloe II. Eight to 10 weeks, which means he misses the EOYT and won’t return until the new Super season 2026. I assume this means Darry comes in as the fourth lock?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360844365/all-blacks-lock-tupou-vaai-says-his-test-season-over-after-injury-blow

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    @His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    I see Vai has announced he’s gone for the season, having done his knee at training on Thursday before Bledisloe II. Eight to 10 weeks, which means he misses the EOYT and won’t return until the new Super season 2026. I assume this means Darry comes in as the fourth lock?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360844365/all-blacks-lock-tupou-vaai-says-his-test-season-over-after-injury-blow

    Darry had a solid debut season in black, I think he will bring more physicality and add to the line out

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    Reiko is not a centre. Tried, failed. They have moved on.

    I wouldn't say that, he just made very few breaks that was expected of such a quick winger.

    Very good on defence overall.

    It was quite interesting watching at the game, how much ground he covers on defence and how well he reads things. Tupaea, for all his good stuff, held his own on D, but isn't quite as good on D as Rieko is (more a compliment to how good Rieko is on D in fairness). It's not a part of the game that fans tend to look at.

    I'm gonna have to go with the crowd and say that we do look better without BB at 10. There's also more flexiblilty with Tupaea coming into the side. For the rest of the year we could go with

    1. Clarke/LF
    2. Jordie
    3. Tupaea
    4. Carter
    5. Jordan

    bench. Rieko/LF

    or

    1. Clarke
    2. Tupaea
    3. Rieko
    4. Jordan
    5. Jordie

    bench. LF/Carter (whatever order)

    There's a bit to work with now. I feel we might slowly be getting somewhere in the backs. Slowly.

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    @His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    I see Vai has announced he’s gone for the season, having done his knee at training on Thursday before Bledisloe II. Eight to 10 weeks, which means he misses the EOYT and won’t return until the new Super season 2026. I assume this means Darry comes in as the fourth lock?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360844365/all-blacks-lock-tupou-vaai-says-his-test-season-over-after-injury-blow

    Would assume Lord is ahead of Darry in the pecking order but that could have changed during the season.

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    @African-Monkey we have got nowhere if Razor sees last night's game as a stop gap performance while BB the golden boy works his way back to fitness

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    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    I see Vai has announced he’s gone for the season, having done his knee at training on Thursday before Bledisloe II. Eight to 10 weeks, which means he misses the EOYT and won’t return until the new Super season 2026. I assume this means Darry comes in as the fourth lock?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360844365/all-blacks-lock-tupou-vaai-says-his-test-season-over-after-injury-blow

    Would assume Lord is ahead of Darry in the pecking order but that could have changed during the season.

    Based on this coaching teams love of Chiefs forwards I expect you're right.

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    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @His-Bobness said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    I see Vai has announced he’s gone for the season, having done his knee at training on Thursday before Bledisloe II. Eight to 10 weeks, which means he misses the EOYT and won’t return until the new Super season 2026. I assume this means Darry comes in as the fourth lock?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360844365/all-blacks-lock-tupou-vaai-says-his-test-season-over-after-injury-blow

    Would assume Lord is ahead of Darry in the pecking order but that could have changed during the season.

    Lord doesn't do it for me. Yes, he has height, but I don't now what else he really brings. He has no sting in his play around the field, and I wouldn't call him a set piece disruptor or anything. I guess if Holland goes down, we bring him in as a main lineout option, but I feel he's just waiting to get exposed the moment he starts his first major test. Could be wrong of course, but so far, I don't see anything from him.

    Like this decade's version of Dom Bird/Mark Cooksley.

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    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    Not to labour the point but it really is pointless to pick Love just to give him 8 mins on the wing.

    I get that Razor may not want to throw him into the deep end but if you put a player on the bench and just give him a few minutes out of position it's clear you don't rate him. May as well just pick a winger in that case because it's clear you don't think he has what it takes.

    You still need insurance picks on the bench even if they are behind a starter that you intend to play for the majority / all of the match.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    I like your midfield and this way we get all the good players on the field at once in their best positions. Again, possibly premature to base it on one game but if Tupaea can prove he's equally able at 12/13 it's bye bye ALB.

    Anyone here have ALB ahead of QT now even at 13? I doubt there are many supporting such an idea.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    I like your midfield and this way we get all the good players on the field at once in their best positions. Again, possibly premature to base it on one game but if Tupaea can prove he's equally able at 12/13 it's bye bye ALB.

    Anyone here have ALB ahead of QT now even at 13? I doubt there are many supporting such an idea.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    I like your midfield and this way we get all the good players on the field at once in their best positions. Again, possibly premature to base it on one game but if Tupaea can prove he's equally able at 12/13 it's bye bye ALB.

    Anyone here have ALB ahead of QT now even at 13? I doubt there are many supporting such an idea.

    ALB will no doubt get a test again somewhere, but I think it's fair to say that he's well down the pecking order now. Proctor too, unless injury strikes, will have a bit of work to do if he wants another crack.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    Reiko is not a centre. Tried, failed. They have moved on.

    I wouldn't say that, he just made very few breaks that was expected of such a quick winger.

    Very good on defence overall.

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    Reiko is not a centre. Tried, failed. They have moved on.

    I wouldn't say that, he just made very few breaks that was expected of such a quick winger.

    Very good on defence overall.

    He dropped the ball on attack regularly and didn’t pass the ball when line breaks were made. So while good on defence I think we want more.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    Not to labour the point but it really is pointless to pick Love just to give him 8 mins on the wing.

    I get that Razor may not want to throw him into the deep end but if you put a player on the bench and just give him a few minutes out of position it's clear you don't rate him. May as well just pick a winger in that case because it's clear you don't think he has what it takes.

    You still need insurance picks on the bench even if they are behind a starter that you intend to play for the majority / all of the match.

    True but what if the player Love was replacing went down in the 10th minute? Is he being prepped to go 70 minutes with two 8 & 15 minute cameos?

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    I like your midfield and this way we get all the good players on the field at once in their best positions. Again, possibly premature to base it on one game but if Tupaea can prove he's equally able at 12/13 it's bye bye ALB.

    Anyone here have ALB ahead of QT now even at 13? I doubt there are many supporting such an idea.

    Lol. 100%

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    Upvote for the DF reference.

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    Read back the thread from during the match. I guess this is where the always unhappy, complain about everything, bitter old bastards who used to call Radio Sport hang out these days? What an embarrassment to read.

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    Apparently saying ‘wow, how good?’ Is hilarious.

    Good to know

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360844295/scott-robertsons-hilarious-reaction-after-33-year-old-all-blacks-prop-george-bower-scores-first-ever

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    Apparently saying ‘wow, how good?’ Is hilarious.

    Good to know

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360844295/scott-robertsons-hilarious-reaction-after-33-year-old-all-blacks-prop-george-bower-scores-first-ever

    Wow, how good?

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    @Boourns said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    Apparently saying ‘wow, how good?’ Is hilarious.

    Good to know

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360844295/scott-robertsons-hilarious-reaction-after-33-year-old-all-blacks-prop-george-bower-scores-first-ever

    Wow, how good?

    You said it better than Razor

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    Moving past the inevitable razzing of Razor, let's at least acclaim a good classic prop's try to George. More Bower to him.

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