Thugs and pests in NZ footy
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I just used Shalfoon as a loose case study based on one recent incident and one that riled up me and other fans of my team. Even though there was no consequences post the incident.
I did double down on saying we don't have many thuggish players these days.
Petty guys. Yeah. They are great in the teams we support. A right pain in the arsenin the opposition.
I see guys who are described as having mongrel as being lads with a bit of balance between controlled aggression (steps short of being a thug) and some pesty aspects.
Part of what I was getting at was we don't have those types anymore. The likes of Flavell, Robinson, Steve Hotton etc.
It doesn't fit well with the modern game. Management teams don't want to be paying someone a massive salary for them to be on the sideline for a prolonged period.
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Richard Loe.
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@sparky said in Thugs and pests in NZ footy:
Richard Loe.
Surprised it took so long to mention him..
9 month ban for eye gauging
breaking Paul Carozza's nose
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@booboo said in Thugs and pests in NZ footy:
@Bovidae said in Thugs and pests in NZ footy:
Thugs from yesteryear - Jamie Joseph.
Ask Kyran Bracken
Dean Ryan. Kicking John Timu in the head in the same game
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@Virgil said in Thugs and pests in NZ footy:
@sparky said in Thugs and pests in NZ footy:
Richard Loe.
Surprised it took so long to mention him..
9 month ban for eye gauging
breaking Paul Carozza's nose
Fake news.
All Loe was doing was heroically trying to make a cover tackle and Carozza BLATANTLY nosed him in the forearm. Absolute thug. Should have been banned for life.
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Hell , I thought Loe was bit of thug, but there not that many. I know an old bugger, but some of the fellas being mentioned don't even get near a thug list. Funny thing is ones who have been a but that way, Loe (he was no doubt) and Bakkies Botha were both apparently great fellas as soon as whistle blew full time. I think a lot we think arebad just annoy us because they not on our side.
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@mohikamo said in Thugs and pests in NZ footy:
@Dan54
Funny what Jean de Villiers (super nice guy) said about Bakkies.
They got on great . . . except when on the field in opposite teams. He was thinking, jeez, it's like he doesn't know me at all!. We're total strangers!Brad Thorn and a few other ABs said similar. Phil Kearns said same about Loe.
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TKB was a fucking pest
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@Bovidae said in Thugs and pests in NZ footy:
Thugs from yesteryear - Jamie Joseph.
And carried that rep from his days at CCNZ where he was known as a grub. A skilled player, but a grub.
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Yeah
You dont usually see a player like that progress so prominently into coaching.
Probably just considers himself a "hard man," but definitely a thug. -
I've always liked the Meads definitions:
Hard Man: Someone who warns you before punching you in the face
Thug: Someone who kicks you or punches you in the back of the head.
Rugby Union: Loe banned for gouging
