"LIV Rugby"?
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@mohikamo said in "LIV Rugby"?:
There is an Italian league game in Perth!
And has it caused a brouhaha amongst the euros.
One of the Milan players complained (a Frenchman) and the league boss told him to "respect his employer."
It's the way of the world now.And it's only the beginning no matter how defiant people want to be about it.
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Yes
But it is an elite soccer game played in a city where soccer is a minor sport, in the middle of f'n nowhere.
And Milan are one of the Super clubs, the break-away Euro league aint far behind.
That's why the trad euro soccer fans are gettin a bit freaked.Shows you how flush the WA government are at the mo.
I'd say they tried for an EPL game first.
And they've even manged to get a Vic v WA state of origin australian football game up for next season.It is only the beginning.
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Senior rugby figures believe rebel R360 league all but dead after unions’ statement
Senior global rugby figures believe the rebel R360 venture is all but dead unless it can find a way to appease the world’s top nations
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R360 rebel league would be a major blow to Prem, warns Exeter’s Rob Baxter
Exeter director of rugby believes clubs must try to improve the Prem and keep it attractive to lure the best players
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He’s just lining up his next coaching job
No ifs, buts, or maybes
A true professional in fairness
He did hit upon one thing though
The season schedule
It’s a fucking joke in the NH
League, Europe, Autumn Internationals, League, Europe, 6 Nations, League, Summer tours
If we had the sensible schedule of the SH it would be so much better
And so much better attended
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@mikedogz said in "LIV Rugby"?:
Sounds like a ten year ban for any NRL player that goes to R360. Most of the players that might go will be older. Sounds like the ban could even affect their ability to play at lower levels if they wanted to in their late 30's.
The real test to those rules will be if/when the first massive name(s) jump ship.
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@mikedogz said in "LIV Rugby"?:
Sounds like a ten year ban for any NRL player that goes to R360. Most of the players that might go will be older. Sounds like the ban could even affect their ability to play at lower levels if they wanted to in their late 30's.
That's a rule which would be quickly thrown in the bin if sufficient numbers of big names go.
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@antipodean said in "LIV Rugby"?:
@mikedogz said in "LIV Rugby"?:
Sounds like a ten year ban for any NRL player that goes to R360. Most of the players that might go will be older. Sounds like the ban could even affect their ability to play at lower levels if they wanted to in their late 30's.
That's a rule which would be quickly thrown in the bin if sufficient numbers of big names go.
Like when SBW did a runner from the Dogs in 2008 and they threatened all sorts of bans against him and what not, and sure enough, come 2013, he's back at the Roosters after a successful first Union stint.
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Judging by the actions of the establishments, it looks like this is starting to really get some traction.
I can see an anti-competitive behaviour lawsuit coming up.According to Tindall
"rugby is feeling the fallout of the last few years with financial mismanagement, declining investment in the club game and a product that is struggling to evolve.
Clubs around the world are feeling the strain and are being propped up by the international game.
Rugby's lack of innovation and ability to change risks losing its appeal to new audiences and its younger market."These are pretty much my thoughts entirely.
If this gets up, I can’t see it having much effect on NZ rugby at all.
The national union in NZ holds the contracts of the pro players, and the national team is the only team that really matters..
This is not the case in most of the rest of world Rugby.
NZ rugby is already in a position where some of its star pro players get up and fuck-off to big money foreign competitions.
It’s already been like that for a long time now, so it won’t be anything different.Probably more of an issue for the NRL.
They are in such a dogfight with the AFL, losing a host of star players will not be good. -
For all Mike's pontificating, this comp does absolutely nothing to change any of the points he is raising, it'll enrich players with oil money, and the very same financial barriers will exist in the established game. In fact they might get worse.
Disruptors in any industry always say the same shit, but what they really mean is they want the financial benefits without the downsides of establishment.
I am sure grass roots rugby world wide can't wait for a bunch of players to make a few million each while their funding disappears.
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I wonder how much money 'LIV Golf' has made/lost since its inception?
I cannot see how this alternative generates a decent income.
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Well.
Lets look at NZ rugby.
NZR has $300 mil annual revenue.
36% of that goes to the pro rugby players (200 full time, another 500 part time/full time)
That’s $108 mil to the pro players every year.
A very nice chunk.Now the PUs who look after the rest of the players (1,000s of amateurs and juniors) get 17% or $40 mil. of that $300 mil.
A much smaller chunk.
The PUs generate about another $40 mil; and the clubs do what they can, of course.I’m not saying that any of that is wrong.
But just trying to point out that what you are concerned about, is already happening now.
At present the pro players are already taking a large slice of money completely out of the game, every year.
That’s just how it is.What needs to happen is the rugby pie needs to grow.
And if Tindall thinks he can grow the rugby pie, I say go for it.
Because, since the game went pro a generation ago, the current establishment have proved themselves entirely incapable of doing it.The game remains a novelty.
A novelty for aficionados, and nationists who jump on board at international time.
Nationists who’d watch tiddlywinks if it was the national team.I believe there is gap in the world sports/football market for a full contact field football code.
It’s just waiting to be filled, and rugby (union) is best placed to do it.Not NZ though.
The only country in the world where the sports market has been well and truly filled by rugby! -
i fundamentally disagree with just about everything you have said.
