Exodus
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@pooler-fan said in Exodus:
Scarlets have signed Crusaders rookie 22yr old No8 Fletcher Anderson.
He must be eligible for Wales?
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@African-Monkey not seen that in any of the reports to be honest.
There were a few Wales qualified Kiwis mentioned in the Welsh media a while ago but he wasn't one of them. -
@pooler-fan said in Exodus:
Scarlets have signed Crusaders rookie 22yr old No8 Fletcher Anderson.
After getting tonked 00 - 34 at home by the Stormers in their last game they might need a few more soon to be Welsh Qualified Kiwis.
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I am not surprised that Saumaki Saumaki is going to RL.
I keep forgetting to ask why you're not surprised? Does he have a league background or does his body and style of play suit league better?
Saumaki runs straight and hard so looks more suited to RL to me. I can see the attraction to a NRL club. Not the tallest for a loose forward.
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I am not surprised that Saumaki Saumaki is going to RL.
I keep forgetting to ask why you're not surprised? Does he have a league background or does his body and style of play suit league better?
Saumaki runs straight and hard so looks more suited to RL to me. I can see the attraction to a NRL club. Not the tallest for a loose forward.
Yeah, I watched a couple of clips of him online and he looked pretty league body to me too.
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@SouthernMann said in Exodus:
Harry Inch is off to the Warriors.
Interesting move. A year ago was seen as one of the best 10s in schoolboy footy. Wonder if he saw his pathway blocked both at local and national levels.
Does he have a league background?
TBF, with that haircut he looks like he should be playing bogan rugby.
I swear the interview was probably one statement from the warriors
So you can accurately kick field goals and from 40m....
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So the Crusaders CEO is calling the NRL of being lazy, the CEO of the NRL is calling Rugby 360 lazy.
I bet you there's a few NPC CEOs looking at Mansbridge's comments and sniggering.
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Unlike him to have a sook after someone leaving their academy.
You'd think that the Crusaders would never do such a thing.....
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In league, if you’re a talent - there’s the Warriors (or another NRL side) and if they want you, everything is funneled through their system and age grade sides.
In NZ, it’s NPC teams who think they have devine right to bringing through the talent, the Super sides who think likewise, NZR comes in with a few thoughts and rep teams at age group, there’s the club system as well.
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@zedsdeadbaby said in Exodus:
In league, if you’re a talent - there’s the Warriors (or another NRL side) and if they want you, everything is funneled through their system and age grade sides.
In NZ, it’s NPC teams who think they have devine right to bringing through the talent, the Super sides who think likewise, NZR comes in with a few thoughts and rep teams at age group, there’s the club system as well.
So kinda like most professional sports.
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To an extent - but if you’re being presented one pathway to the Warriors that looks pretty straight forward then another which is more complicated, you can see the differences.
In rugby, you could have one set of coaches at NPC telling you one thing about your development. Another set at Super (in a different city) telling you another
I think the pathways system here does need an overhaul.
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@zedsdeadbaby said in Exodus:
To an extent - but if you’re being presented one pathway to the Warriors that looks pretty straight forward then another which is more complicated, you can see the differences.
In rugby, you could have one set of coaches at NPC telling you one thing about your development. Another set at Super (in a different city) telling you another
I think the pathways system here does need an overhaul.
I recently made a kind of ‘rugby pyramid’ for this year’s NZ U20s (what grades they went through and still need to go to get to the highest level). And while I think you’re right that there’s quite a few different team environments – NZR, NPC, SR – at the same time, you can move through the system really quickly if you make the right teams. Sinton is a good example of this: he’s very young but it’s already clear how he could take that third halfback spot at the Chiefs in either 2026 or 2027, after already making NZ U20s and playing for the Steamers this year.
NZ Rugby pyramid from this year's NZ U20s perspectiveAnd while you’re within just the single system in the NRL, there are quite a few grades (SG Ball, Jersey Flegg, NSW Cup) you have to get through, which can take a fair while. So I’m not sure the one is that more straightforward than the other.
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The big difference is the age at which you can start to earn decent money, and for some 17-19 yr olds a RL contract can be life-changing, whereas a rugby player doesn't really earn that much at the same age unless you have a NDC or PU contract. I doubt the PU academy players earn that much in comparison to RL development players. Leka Halasima's contract would be much higher than a SR player of the same age.
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And while you’re within just the single system in the NRL, there are quite a few grades (SG Ball, Jersey Flegg, NSW Cup) you have to get through, which can take a fair while. So I’m not sure the one is that more straightforward than the other.
Grades are still with same team and if youre good enough age isnt a problem and to the point @Bovidae raises..you can earn significant coin faster (on average), especially with more teams about to come in
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The difference in the NRL is you can play in 3 different grades in the same year. Where you can't do that in New Zealand rugby with the way the season is structured. Just look at Makasini from last years schoolboy game. He played SG Ball, Jersey Flegg, NSW cup and made his NRL debut all in the same year.
