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  • nzzpN Online
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    @MN5 said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @booboo said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    I fail to see the point of Philips. Not good enough at bowling, doesn't contribute enough with the bat and has brain farts I the field. Second thoughts, he's a traditional Black Caps all-rounder

    He's made me think he's a really promising batsman. Just not delivered on that in this series.

    The bowling and fielding is a bonus.

    I want him to deliver on his primary role, which because of my fanboi-ing I'm sure he can ...

    We haven't used Phillips well. He's at best a part time bowler, and his first class record suggests that - decent enough averages but has never bowled a huge amount of overs. So batting him at 7 just makes no sense. It makes even less sense when you consider we've been insisting on playing Blundell as an all rounder and batting him at 6 when leading up to that century he'd been averaging about 14 for the past year, on top of his glove work being generally untidy.

    Swapping them around would benefit both players. It'd give Phillips a chance to bat with batsmen more instead of managing the tail, to see if he can replicate his 40 FC average at test level. It would also mean he can come out with a license to play his natural attacking game knowing there is still enough batting left to eek out some more runs if needed. For Blundell it'd take some pressure off his batting and hopefully allow him to focus a bit more on his glovework which is his primary role in the team.

    This is an astonishingly well thought out post. Too much sense for it to be written by a Ferner !

    Totally agree

    @No-Quarter are you @Mauss ?

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    @No-Quarter when Blundell went through his best scoring patch from early 2022 to mid 2023 he was batting at 6. So I think they are hoping that will return.

    Other than 3,4 and 5, I think we have question marks across our batting lineup.

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    @nzzp said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @booboo said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    I fail to see the point of Philips. Not good enough at bowling, doesn't contribute enough with the bat and has brain farts I the field. Second thoughts, he's a traditional Black Caps all-rounder

    He's made me think he's a really promising batsman. Just not delivered on that in this series.

    The bowling and fielding is a bonus.

    I want him to deliver on his primary role, which because of my fanboi-ing I'm sure he can ...

    We haven't used Phillips well. He's at best a part time bowler, and his first class record suggests that - decent enough averages but has never bowled a huge amount of overs. So batting him at 7 just makes no sense. It makes even less sense when you consider we've been insisting on playing Blundell as an all rounder and batting him at 6 when leading up to that century he'd been averaging about 14 for the past year, on top of his glove work being generally untidy.

    Swapping them around would benefit both players. It'd give Phillips a chance to bat with batsmen more instead of managing the tail, to see if he can replicate his 40 FC average at test level. It would also mean he can come out with a license to play his natural attacking game knowing there is still enough batting left to eek out some more runs if needed. For Blundell it'd take some pressure off his batting and hopefully allow him to focus a bit more on his glovework which is his primary role in the team.

    This is an astonishingly well thought out post. Too much sense for it to be written by a Ferner !

    Totally agree

    @No-Quarter are you @Mauss ?

    @No-Quarter is a millennial and therefor that post was most likely plagiarised from someone older and wiser.
    I am unsure of @Mauss's generation so am unable to make gross generalisations about him but the post does really make sense and will inevitably not happen. It's annoying Phillips is not being utilised properly at the moment.

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    wrote last edited by
    #815

    England are back on kiwi soil for three T20 matches and three ODI matches. First of the two T20 matches at Hagley Oval begins tomorrow.
    Santner is back to captain the Black Caps.

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    @1kiwi I'm dark about our summer

    Lots of white ball, overloading on t20

    Basically finished by Christmas. Then we're touring Jan and Feb, inbound short again and then we're playing England away in June.

    I'm going to lean into domestic cricket I reckon

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    wrote last edited by
    #817

    Honestly, I was surprised at how much I enjoyed super smash (mens and women's) last year. Don't compare it to BBL or anything (it's almost comical) but it's pretty evenly matched so the matches are generally pretty even.

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    wrote last edited by
    #818

    Black Caps bowlers got absolutely pumped.

    England 236/4

    Caps currently 28/2 from 3.

    Are leg side wides not a thing anymore?
    Seen 2 deliveries sneak down leg side in the last 2 overs which don’t appear to have touched the batter on the way through and they haven’t been called wide…. Interesting to say the least.

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    wrote last edited by Gunner
    #819

    Chapman and Seifert have done well after losing those 2 early wickets, but they’ve really struggled in the last couple of overs.

    As I type, Seifert dispatches a beamer over the fence, and promptly returns to the struggle… nicks one to the keeper on the free hit.

    87/2 from 9.

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    wrote last edited by
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    I'm calling it game now, it's been looking pretty grim for a while but now we would need a mircle to even get close.

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    wrote last edited by booboo
    #821

    104 off 37 with 4 wkts.

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    Mercifully bowled out by 10:30, only a 65 run loss. Success!

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    @nzzp said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @1kiwi I'm dark about our summer

    Lots of white ball, overloading on t20

    Basically finished by Christmas. Then we're touring Jan and Feb, inbound short again and then we're playing England away in June.

    I'm going to lean into domestic cricket I reckon

    You're forgetting the Windies are turning up here to get pummelled in the test series but I get your point.

    Three beat downs of a shit team does not make a Summer of Cricket. Loads of T20s where we forget the results after five minutes apparently does.

    I can only hope the team are competitive against England in June ( certainly more so than the last tour there ) but just THREE tests before then against modest opposition isn't ideal preperation.

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    @MN5 said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @nzzp said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @1kiwi I'm dark about our summer

    Lots of white ball, overloading on t20

    Basically finished by Christmas. Then we're touring Jan and Feb, inbound short again and then we're playing England away in June.

    I'm going to lean into domestic cricket I reckon

    You're forgetting the Windies are turning up here to get pummelled in the test series but I get your point.

    Three beat downs of a shit team does not make a Summer of Cricket. Loads of T20s where we forget the results after five minutes apparently does.

    Fuck I got bored last night. Sixes and fours just don't mean anything when they are so frequent - big bats, small boundaries, flat pitches.

    Seeing the new batting stances reminds me of baseball. Ironic how the games converge in some areas after so long apart (well, as I understand it - Rounders/Cricket --> baseball/softball)

    Given how different T20 is to Tests, is this a chance to administrate these as different sports? Fulltime Test players touring the world, fulltime T20 zooming around. You could watch both sides competing the same day - Tests in the day, then T20 at night.

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    replied to nzzp last edited by
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    @nzzp said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @nzzp said in Black Caps vs England Series:

    @1kiwi I'm dark about our summer

    Lots of white ball, overloading on t20

    Basically finished by Christmas. Then we're touring Jan and Feb, inbound short again and then we're playing England away in June.

    I'm going to lean into domestic cricket I reckon

    You're forgetting the Windies are turning up here to get pummelled in the test series but I get your point.

    Three beat downs of a shit team does not make a Summer of Cricket. Loads of T20s where we forget the results after five minutes apparently does.

    Fuck I got bored last night. Sixes and fours just don't mean anything when they are so frequent - big bats, small boundaries, flat pitches.

    Seeing the new batting stances reminds me of baseball. Ironic how the games converge in some areas after so long apart (well, as I understand it - Rounders/Cricket --> baseball/softball)

    Given how different T20 is to Tests, is this a chance to administrate these as different sports? Fulltime Test players touring the world, fulltime T20 zooming around. You could watch both sides competing the same day - Tests in the day, then T20 at night.

    It is literally too much. Sixes used to mean something. Imagine what Viv Richards, Beefy Botham, Gordon Greenidge and our own Lance Cairns would do with todays bats and the smaller boundaries ?

    I'd stick my neck out and say the great Sir Viv would average a bit over 60 today.

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    wrote last edited by
    #826

    There's a couple of bats in the local Cricket Express that feel like any random TSFer could top edge the odd six with...

    Perhaps with a bit of AI added into it to hit the ball first... 🙂

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  • nzzpN Online
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    wrote last edited by
    #827

    Not just me not super excited!

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    wrote last edited by Chris B.
    #828

    Seifert's scoop shot off Carse on ball 1.2 is quite incredible.

    Ends up pretty much performing a somersault, but watches the ball as he falls away and scoops it for six.

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    wrote last edited by
    #829

    who would have seen staging cricket in the middle of spring, a full 6 weeks before Summer even begins would not be such a great idea..

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    replied to Virgil last edited by
    #830

    @Virgil the accountants

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    wrote last edited by
    #831

    So surprising it got rained off last night, the weather has been so settled this week. No way they could have predicted this.

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