NRL 2025
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i feel like you're making 2024 comments. Ford's penalties and errors were way down this year and he was definitey a positive. He makes up part of a great middle rotation.
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@bayimports said in NRL 2025:
Ford is actually pretty good as a middle, doesn't have to do slicing runs where his hands are slower than his feet, but makes a shit load of tackles. Agree on Capewell, not a threat on attack but covered alot and far too much at centre because our centres were way below par. But did ok overall. Need to fix our centres first and foremost. Time catches everyone eventually and that resurgence as you say could be one season only
Warriors not willing to put too much money into keeping Metcalf either which is good news, they're willing to match someone who plays 11 games a season which is probably why he is testing the market.
Even in his good year Ford was his usual penalty and ruck infringement machine. A lot of tackles (again in his good year) doesn't balance that out for me.
Yeah, I do I wonder if Capewell's poor defence was just because we were using him at centre too often or if that's just his defence level these days?
Dont disagree about being a penalty magnet but covered our ass many times with his work.
The fact the Capewell played backrow in a winning Origin series and series winning game 2 team says to me, he is not the problem. Time for others around him to step up. He is not a centre but covers for his team, I dont think he can defend the speed as he once could but again he is good enough in his proper position. (ageing though so maybe less minutes this year)
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2025:
i feel like you're making 2024 comments. Ford's penalties and errors were way down this year and he was definitey a positive. He makes up part of a great middle rotation.
He's the only Warrior in the top 50 for average penalties (he had more this year than last year) and he's top 10 for ruck infringements. He missed more tackles this year than last year off less minutes and he made 3 less errors than last year off less minutes.
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That 1) doesn't gel with the ye test, and 2) can be explained by moving from a bench edge to a starting middle.
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2025:
That 1) doesn't gel with the ye test, and 2) can be explained by moving from a bench edge to a starting middle.
I guess we have different eyes, I saw the penalties and errors this year, and I'd prefer if someone moved to the middle that those type of errors would come down, especially when it comes to tackles where there's less movement than on the edge.
Ford is the same player he's always been, if this level of mediocrity is what we want at the Warriors then lets at least do it with NZ players. Jazz got crucified for his error rate in a position as a ball player where he had more opportunities to make them.
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lol fuck Jazz? one of the worst full time Warriors i have ever seen.
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best news all day clearly not just about money
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2025:
lol fuck Jazz? one of the worst full time Warriors i have ever seen.
Ford is just Aussie Jazz.
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2025:
lol fuck Jazz? one of the worst full time Warriors i have ever seen.
Ford is just Aussie Jazz.
no.
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2025:
lol fuck Jazz? one of the worst full time Warriors i have ever seen.
Ford is just Aussie Jazz.
Dont agree with it either, not even close to similar dual positions. Ford much more effective middle forward if that was where you were going than Jazz was including been able to handle a sixty minute stint rather than just a 40 min huff and puff.
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I'm talking about the similarity of Jazz being an error machine, if you guys want to defend Ford's faults based on their different positions go for your life. Ford will still be the same penalty magnet, will still make errors, and will still miss tackles next year, at least Jazz is stinking up other teams instead of us.
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@Nepia lol you made me laugh at least but agree happy that jazz has moved on. I still think Ford is effective in his role. He can certainly make mistakes but as we bring more juniors through he will certainly help them with communication in the defensive line and line speed so think he has a role to play. Probably had to overplay him due to injuries but still Webby wanting the experience on the field thought he did ok especially where we finished on the ladder. The younger ones will only improve on last years experience so perhaps that limits his role. As does Mitchell Barnett being fit. Anyway just dont see him as the weakest link.
Im still looking at our centres
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Gave away the same amount of penalties as the lauded (and very fucking good) Joey Tapine. Less errors than crowd favourite Leka Halasima. Missed two more tackles than our best player all year Erin Clark (and that missed tackle average is 88th in the league).
Stats can tell you anything if you want to look at them funny.
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Noodles (Jessie Ramien) on the market due to salary cap issues at the sharks.. pretty good target for those with money
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2025:
Gave away the same amount of penalties as the lauded (and very fucking good) Joey Tapine. Less errors than crowd favourite Leka Halasima. Missed two more tackles than our best player all year Erin Clark (and that missed tackle average is 88th in the league).
Stats can tell you anything if you want to look at them funny.
If Tapine ever plays for the Warriors then maybe I'll start following his stats. And if Ford wins us game on his pure dynamism like Leka then I'll eat Kirwans hat.
Anyway, the point is the narrative this year has been that he's been so much better than last year, all that the stats do is show that the areas he's problematic in were still problematic this year even when he's supposed to be much better.
