"LIV Rugby"?
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I wonder how much money 'LIV Golf' has made/lost since its inception?
I cannot see how this alternative generates a decent income.
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Well.
Lets look at NZ rugby.
NZR has $300 mil annual revenue.
36% of that goes to the pro rugby players (200 full time, another 500 part time/full time)
That’s $108 mil to the pro players every year.
A very nice chunk.Now the PUs who look after the rest of the players (1,000s of amateurs and juniors) get 17% or $40 mil. of that $300 mil.
A much smaller chunk.
The PUs generate about another $40 mil; and the clubs do what they can, of course.I’m not saying that any of that is wrong.
But just trying to point out that what you are concerned about, is already happening now.
At present the pro players are already taking a large slice of money completely out of the game, every year.
That’s just how it is.What needs to happen is the rugby pie needs to grow.
And if Tindall thinks he can grow the rugby pie, I say go for it.
Because, since the game went pro a generation ago, the current establishment have proved themselves entirely incapable of doing it.The game remains a novelty.
A novelty for aficionados, and nationists who jump on board at international time.
Nationists who’d watch tiddlywinks if it was the national team.I believe there is gap in the world sports/football market for a full contact field football code.
It’s just waiting to be filled, and rugby (union) is best placed to do it.Not NZ though.
The only country in the world where the sports market has been well and truly filled by rugby! -
i fundamentally disagree with just about everything you have said.
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The game is constantly evoluting.
I watched a game of elite international rugby a few days ago.
New Zealand v Australia at U18 level.
129 points were scored in the match.
If you take that the ball was only "live" for about 37 minutes (about the mean at present).
That means that a point was scored approximately every 17 seconds.Incredible, to me at least.
Used to be you'd only see something like that in a lopsided under U13s game.
But there we have it in an elite match up.
Now that is rugby evoluting!Not sayin that's a good thing, but looks like that might be the direction we are goin.
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New Zealanders have a fundamentally different view of rugby to the rest of the world for reasons that are very obvious.
You only have to look at the state of the game of rugby in the West Island to realise that.
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@mohikamo said in "LIV Rugby"?:
The game is constantly evoluting.
I watched a game of elite international rugby a few days ago.
New Zealand v Australia at U18 level.
129 points were scored in the match.
If you take that the ball was only "live" for about 37 minutes (about the mean at present).
That means that a point was scored approximately every 17 seconds.Incredible, to me at least.
Used to be you'd only see something like that in a lopsided under U13s game.
But there we have it in an elite match up.
Now that is rugby evoluting!Not sayin that's a good thing, but looks like that might be the direction we are goin.
Or both defence coaches should be jettisoned
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@MiketheSnow said in "LIV Rugby"?:
@mohikamo said in "LIV Rugby"?:
The game is constantly evoluting.
I watched a game of elite international rugby a few days ago.
New Zealand v Australia at U18 level.
129 points were scored in the match.
If you take that the ball was only "live" for about 37 minutes (about the mean at present).
That means that a point was scored approximately every 17 seconds.Incredible, to me at least.
Used to be you'd only see something like that in a lopsided under U13s game.
But there we have it in an elite match up.
Now that is rugby evoluting!Not sayin that's a good thing, but looks like that might be the direction we are goin.
Or both defence coaches should be jettisoned
Or ejecoluted.
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Nailed it
The coffin that is -
A beautiful bit of writing from @sumostevenson:
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@sparky They’ve taken the world’s most complicated sport and tried to complicate it further. All of this a year before the Nations League and Club World Cup start and the rugby battleship begins its slow turn to a more synchronised calendar.
If they’re desperate to invest why not just try and buy a team and turn them into a powerhouse?
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@game_film and in a sport where international rugby, particularly the RWC is seen as the peak, meaning anyone jumping ship, cant play.
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@game_film said in "LIV Rugby"?:
@sparky They’ve taken the world’s most complicated sport and tried to complicate it further. All of this a year before the Nations League and Club World Cup start and the rugby battleship begins its slow turn to a more synchronised calendar.
If they’re desperate to invest why not just try and buy a team and turn them into a powerhouse?
Or buy a whole competition. Reckon they'd be able to get Super Rugby for the change down the back of the King's couch.
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@barbarian said in "LIV Rugby"?:
@game_film said in "LIV Rugby"?:
@sparky They’ve taken the world’s most complicated sport and tried to complicate it further. All of this a year before the Nations League and Club World Cup start and the rugby battleship begins its slow turn to a more synchronised calendar.
If they’re desperate to invest why not just try and buy a team and turn them into a powerhouse?
Or buy a whole competition. Reckon they'd be able to get Super Rugby for the change down the back of the King's couch.
This is actually a really interesting idea. Huge outside money to make the competition separate from each country, with Japan included and some NH marquee signings. The time zone fucks the value though.
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R360's launch delayed until 2028 and I suspect for a lot longer than that.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/cg5myyrm9nyo
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"The decision to shift our launch to 2028 is a strategic decision based on timing," said R360 board member and former England centre Mike Tindall.
"Launching under compressed timelines would not meet the standards we set for R360, nor would it deliver the long-term commercial impact that the sport deserves."
Mike Tindall and Scott Hansen need to become business partners. They talk the same bullshit.