Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2
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@canefan said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@kev said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@canefan said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@Jet said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
Overall a clunky game but always great to beat Ireland.
Fainga’anuku was very good. Plays direct and is hard to get to ground. The way Ireland defend you need that extra time on your feet to allow support players to arrive. Him and Clarke and also Quinn provide that.
Plenty of negative that no doubt will be highlighted, but happy to win and a shame we couldn’t get that last try.
I think we have to call it like it is. We are not very good. The coaching and selections are mental.
Mexteds infamous quote comes to mind.
We are like blind men in a brothel. Just groping.
It's not cohesive. Not authoritative. We dont have any players giving us 8/10 every week.
Someone always saves our arse.
Who are the bona fide world 15 players in the squad. Jordie (at a push)?
The lack of strong game plan is making us much poorer than we should be
I thought they created space and attacking opportunities in first half but poor passing and lineout execution cost them.
Failure to create phases up the middle, and the narrow field, meant almost everytime we went wide we lost it
I thought we lost a lot at restarts when on attack. Usually Codie throws well but we were picked off, knocked on coming down, not straight etc. Then we had a clear break and Jordan dummied and then threw a passs to Carter who has overrun him. I would hate to see visits to the 22 and points scored in the 1st half.
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@antipodean said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
Nice post match interview by Holland. First answer and managed to get most of the cliches in.
Their forwards were thrashing out there like Windmollen but I put my finger in the dikes most likely to crumble and slowly we stopped leaking.
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@African-Monkey said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@KiwiMurph said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@Jet said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
Lakai was non existent.
Disagree. Thought he was fine. Works hard. Consistent. Low error rate. Not the biggest player but he is powerful.
Yup, he's needed out there. Someone in the loose has to do the dirty work.
I am willing to self reflect.
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@upthelanders said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@Mattasaurus Two of the Barrett’s out for the next test so great
I don't think Jordie is that bad, he gets crap on here because of his brothers. Might not always be the best choice at 12 but he's a good player.
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@hikastags said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
Caleb Clarke said post-match that the squad put rugby aside for the week to "re-gather as a group after a long break"
Auckland Police have expressed surprise Caleb Clarke knows what a brake is.
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@brodean said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@KiwiMurph said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@Jet said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
Lakai was non existent.
Disagree. Thought he was fine. Works hard. Consistent. Low error rate. Not the biggest player but he is powerful.
I thought Lakai was the pick of the loose forwards.
What is Lakai's best position though?
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@Jet said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@African-Monkey said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@KiwiMurph said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@Jet said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
Lakai was non existent.
Disagree. Thought he was fine. Works hard. Consistent. Low error rate. Not the biggest player but he is powerful.
Yup, he's needed out there. Someone in the loose has to do the dirty work.
I am willing to self reflect.
Say hi to Fletch's dad for me.
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@nostrildamus said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@brodean said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@KiwiMurph said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@Jet said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
Lakai was non existent.
Disagree. Thought he was fine. Works hard. Consistent. Low error rate. Not the biggest player but he is powerful.
I thought Lakai was the pick of the loose forwards.
What is Lakai's best position though?
For me only Savea is in the top 4 loose forwards in the country so Lakais best position isn't really relevant. I dont foresee a high ceiling for Lakai either.
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What an annoying game to watch and bonkers that we had that big a win based off that performance. For 60 minutes we were utter poop. Happy with the result, not that happy with the performance. If Ireland could have taken some missed chances earlier on we might be singing from a different song sheet.
BB plays like a scatterbrained teenager. How is it that DMac has that reputation still while BB is serving it up consistently.
For as good a rugby player that he is Jordan lacks some basic skills. His passing is a lottery.
Roigard had two excellent moments in a match where he didn't quite live up to the Fern hype.
LF had a good game. I guess he's now our number 1 centre because we may as well try out four of them this year.
How has it taken me this long to realise that Furlong and De Groot are twins?
FFS the ref pissed me off when he gave Ireland another go at a miss kick because they didn't kick off the mark. Either let it play on or scrum to us, instead they were rewarded with a mulligan.
What is Lakai's role? He's supposed to be the blockbuster running guy, but he didn't do any of that.
Sititi looks to he coming back into form, put in a handy shift. In fact all the replacements seems to add something in this match.
Ah well, win number 1 in the box, maybe this is going to really kick off the era of Razor if we can build on the direct play of the last 20.
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@brodean said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@Mattasaurus said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
Job done
DeGroot, Carter and Clarke the best of the starters for me.
Dmac impact was noticeable and needed
The scrum was rubbish.
Eh? I thought they clearly dominated their opponents.
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@antipodean said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@brodean said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@Mattasaurus said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
Job done
DeGroot, Carter and Clarke the best of the starters for me.
Dmac impact was noticeable and needed
The scrum was rubbish.
Eh? I thought they clearly dominated their opponents.
Yep the scrum was strong.
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@Jet said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
Beaudie missed touch on a pitch that isnt the regulation width.
So apt. So very apt.
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@reprobate said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@Dan54 said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@canefan said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
Whoever is persisting with picking over the hill guys like BB, whether it's Razor or someone higher up forcing his hand, they need to be binned. They are damaging our legacy
I not just saying that because I think like it or not BB probably the right choice.....at this stage.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion Dan. Here's mine: let alone the ABs, BB wasn't the best choice for his Super team. And in all honesty, I think he probably wouldn't have been the best choice for his NPC team this year either.
Of course everyone is entitled to his opinion, just seems I not allowed one if it differentiates to yours maybe. I fine with the fact you have different opinion to me. Geez it would be boring if we all agreed.
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@booboo said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@Darth-Sader said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
A win is a win. Peace out, enjoy the rest of your weekend!
Frankly think it's better than that.
4 tries to 1. Against the 3rd ranked team in the world (by the worst All Black team in 50 years). Battled past stupid handling errors. Battled past injury so that our 4th and 5th best locks were on the field for most of the game. Disrupted midfield. And pretty much dominated the last 20mins.
Tick. Job done.
Yep. Defensively very good. I wouldn’t have said the All Blacks were terrible in the first half, more the game was extremely stop start.
Lineout was poor, but I think the standards some people are trying to hold this team to is unrealistic for how good these players are.
We aren’t by far and away the best team in the world talent wise anymore, so we aren’t going to absolutely dominate teams.
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@brodean said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
@Mattasaurus said in Ireland v All Blacks - Chicago2:
Job done
DeGroot, Carter and Clarke the best of the starters for me.
Dmac impact was noticeable and needed
The scrum was rubbish.
No it wasn’t.
Other than the confusion about the engagement on one, we put them under all sorts of pressure which forced them to wheel. And give away penalties.
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