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    @cgrant said in Exodus:

    McLeod (Canterbury/Crusaders) got a proposal from Clermont last week. He does not seem to have given his answer yet.

    Clermont becoming the 1 Test AB side if this did happen.

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    @Daffy-Jaffy Shag & Foz love signing up Kiwi's to their team Zach Gallagher, Josh Dickson, Isaiah Mapusua, Blair Ryall, Aaron Smith, Tiaan Falcon, Aidan Morgan, Mark Telea etc.

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    @mikedogz ffs

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    An indication that a WTG contract still won't be enough to keep some players in NZ.

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    @Grooter said in Exodus:

    @Daffy-Jaffy Shag & Foz love signing up Kiwi's to their team Zach Gallagher, Josh Dickson, Isaiah Mapusua, Blair Ryall, Aaron Smith, Tiaan Falcon, Aidan Morgan, Mark Telea etc.

    with ex-AB coaches like these, who needs enemies?

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    Well worth a read.

    Game is supposedly more interesting to younger players (ball in play etc.), pays more, and has an easier to understand pathway. According to the article, Super salaries have not grown since the early 2000s, while if you are in the top 30 contracted players for NRL you start at $140K AUD.

    Sport, League, Rugby, New Zealand

    Why promising young rugby players are choosing league over the sport they grew up playing

    Why promising young rugby players are choosing league over the sport they grew up playing

    One top sports agent says rugby league offers clearer pathways and far better pay.

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    @gt12 That fact about Super Rugby salaries has to surely be taken with a grain of salt. As a general rule, since the Silverlake Deal, as a general rule, seems like players are sticking around a little longer than they had been.

    Most of the players who head offshore, seem to be doing so for lifestyle reasons, rather than out and out financial reasons.

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    @gt12 said in Exodus:

    Well worth a read.

    Game is supposedly more interesting to younger players (ball in play etc.), pays more, and has an easier to understand pathway. According to the article, Super salaries have not grown since the early 2000s, while if you are in the top 30 contracted players for NRL you start at $140K AUD.

    Sport, League, Rugby, New Zealand

    Why promising young rugby players are choosing league over the sport they grew up playing

    Why promising young rugby players are choosing league over the sport they grew up playing

    One top sports agent says rugby league offers clearer pathways and far better pay.

    NZ Herald writing a pro league/anti rugby article, damn, who would have thought it. TBF, I don't have premium so wont be reading the article so my response is more to your synopsis of it.

    Is league more interesting to younger players? There's roughly the same amount of teenage rugby players as there are total league players in the country, and some of that total includes players in the national schools comp held over a week or two, of which that might be the only league they play that year.

    Do we know how much Super players earn, I highly doubt there'd be many main squad (which is the equivalent of the top 30) super players earning under $140 (I don't think the AUD is relevant, it requires a movement to a new country/sport in most cases).

    The guys who go who have a decent-ish profile get hyped by the media, but that overlooks the ones who stay, even ones who were league players when younger.

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    @Nepia said in Exodus:

    @gt12 said in Exodus:

    Well worth a read.

    Game is supposedly more interesting to younger players (ball in play etc.), pays more, and has an easier to understand pathway. According to the article, Super salaries have not grown since the early 2000s, while if you are in the top 30 contracted players for NRL you start at $140K AUD.

    Sport, League, Rugby, New Zealand

    Why promising young rugby players are choosing league over the sport they grew up playing

    Why promising young rugby players are choosing league over the sport they grew up playing

    One top sports agent says rugby league offers clearer pathways and far better pay.

    NZ Herald writing a pro league/anti rugby article, damn, who would have thought it. TBF, I don't have premium so wont be reading the article so my response is more to your synopsis of it.

    Is league more interesting to younger players? There's roughly the same amount of teenage rugby players as there are total league players in the country, and some of that total includes players in the national schools comp held over a week or two, of which that might be the only league they play that year.

    Do we know how much Super players earn, I highly doubt there'd be many main squad (which is the equivalent of the top 30) super players earning under $140 (I don't think the AUD is relevant, it requires a movement to a new country/sport in most cases).

    The guys who go who have a decent-ish profile get hyped by the media, but that overlooks the ones who stay, even ones who were league players when younger.

    You can use tools to read it, you know...

    I don't want to paste in too much, as it would be better to actually read the article, but on the payment, here is what it says:

    “You have provincial unions who offer development contracts. These can be anywhere from $1 to probably about $2500. The very upper end is $5000. And they effectively have the provincial union providing some infrastructure and high performance for these young men.

    At entry level, the NRL offers more than twice what Super Rugby players earn.

    Super Rugby franchises must pay their contracted players a minimum of $75,000 per year

    On the interest in the sport thing, I don't believe a word of it, I think it is all about getting their bag as soon as possible with the easiest potential to get it.

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    The money will tell the story in the end.
    NRL players are starting at 140k; a SR average would be about 135k.
    ABs would be on a lot more than that; some a lot, lot more.

    The ABs will always be mega; but the professional union game in NZ will (is) slowly get hollowed out by pro league.
    It already has been in Aus.
    And the pro women already seem to be league/union blending.

    At last count there were 160 NZ born players in the NRL.
    I can remember when there would have been virtually none in the Sydney comp.
    Important to note; that is more than one teams worth of enzeders.

    Ball in play was at 56 minutes for the NRL last season, a record.
    I noticed also note that refs had been instructed to aim for 2 second play the balls last season as well. Probably why they hit a record.
    Which is more than Soccer (55 mins of 90).
    Union is at about 37 mins.
    NFL is only about 11 mins (of 60)

    Marky Mark was a bit freaked at his first Roosters training season, and he was a sevens player, who I thought were fit. But not good enough for league.
    In the end tho, he went just fine, and made the national team.
    I think a lot of young union players will have taken note of that.

    After the Perth Bears and the PNG Chiefs have been bedded into the comp, there will be only one place left for the NRL to go.
    I can see that brand spanking new stadium in Chch literally sucking an NRL franchise right in.

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    replied to gt12 last edited by
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    @gt12 said in Exodus:

    if you are in the top 30 contracted players for NRL you start at $140K AUD.

    I would suggest if you're in the top 35 SR players you're on more than that, so not quite the league win one might think.

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    replied to Bones last edited by gt12
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    @Bones said in Exodus:

    @gt12 said in Exodus:

    if you are in the top 30 contracted players for NRL you start at $140K AUD.

    I would suggest if you're in the top 35 SR players you're on more than that, so not quite the league win one might think.

    Per club.

    That's the base for a Top grade player, according to the article.

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    Fern tradition and all that, but fucking hell, have any of you fluffybunnies heard of archive?

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    replied to gt12 last edited by
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    @gt12 said in Exodus:

    Fern tradition and all that, but fucking hell, have any of you fluffybunnies heard of archive?

    7-zip?

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    @gt12 I posted the links about 20 times, and still every boomer retard would reply "paywall". Often when the archive link was in the same post ...

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    replied to gt12 last edited by
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    @gt12 said in Exodus:

    Fern tradition and all that, but fucking hell, have any of you fluffybunnies heard of archive?

    What is this archive you speak of???

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    replied to mohikamo last edited by
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    @mohikamo said in Exodus:

    The money will tell the story in the end.
    NRL players are starting at 140k; a SR average would be about 135k.
    ABs would be on a lot more than that; some a lot, lot more.

    The ABs will always be mega; but the professional union game in NZ will (is) slowly get hollowed out by pro league.
    It already has been in Aus.

    It's to some extent fascinating that this is happening thirty years after rugby went pro because you would assume that would have given rugby a degree of insulation from league it did not have during the amateur era when people like Frano Botica could be signed by Wigan whilst on tour with the ABs.

    I think the reverse has happened in England where league seems like it's in decline and rugby is in a stronger position in relative terms. The Ellery Hanley and Martin Offiah equivalents are more likely to be playing rugby these days, it would seem.

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