Scotland v All Blacks
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@sparky said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
It makes the exclusion of Dalton Papalii and Hoskins Sotutu even worse if Luke Jacobson and Samipeni Finau are in the squad as foodbills.
Why? So Papalii and Sotutu can be foodbills instead?
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@ACT-Crusader said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
Scotland: Kinghorn; Graham, Hutchinson, Tuipulotu (capt) Steyn; Russell, White; Schoeman, Ashman, Rae, Gilchrist, Cummings, Brown, M Fagerson, Dempsey.
Replacements: Turner, Sutherland, Millar-Mills, Sykes, Darge, Bayliss, Dobie, Jordan.No DvdM? Injured?
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@mohikamo said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@MN5 said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
Apparently Brad Thorn was bloody good at this facet of the game
He was.
And I saw a comment he made that rugby league players had no conception of the amount of power that was generated in a rugby union scrum.I was at a lunch in Brisbane where Brad talked of exactly same thing. There were a couple of leaguies there who asked Brad whether union was tough etc as league. He tries to expalin how much unuion was a sport where everyone had to work together and then spoke of the power going through a scrum, and how it was from everyone. He was also very proud that although he had retired he could still work as good as the Reds forwards when training at scrums.
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@booboo So we can have big bodies rather than midgets in the back row.
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@ploughboy said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
so the scots loose forward arnt big so we have picked our smallest quartet to match them. instead of going big to physically extend them. shows you everything about this coaches mindset
That would work if our bigs were physically imposing but they aren’t.
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@booboo said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@sparky said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
It makes the exclusion of Dalton Papalii and Hoskins Sotutu even worse if Luke Jacobson and Samipeni Finau are in the squad as foodbills.
Why? So Papalii and Sotutu can be foodbills instead?
100%. Neither of them would have any more impact IMO. All this talk that Dalton would be the difference maker recently is bullshit, if he was he would still be in the squad.
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@sparky said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@booboo So we can have big bodies rather than midgets in the back row.
We have bigger bodies in the stands. Why would raise two being in the squad make any difference to who Razor picks in the XXII.
Parker and Finau are both bigger than Dalts and Hos. And I think LJ is too.
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@Canes4life said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@booboo said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@sparky said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
It makes the exclusion of Dalton Papalii and Hoskins Sotutu even worse if Luke Jacobson and Samipeni Finau are in the squad as foodbills.
Why? So Papalii and Sotutu can be foodbills instead?
100%. Neither of them would have any more impact IMO. All this talk that Dalton would be the difference maker recently is bullshit, if he was he would still be in the squad.
Just that Razor has picked small players. Could have gone 6. Parker, 7. LJ, 8. Finau.
Bigger than including "The Auckland Two".
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@Bones said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@sparky yes.
Doesn't look quick. Actually is very.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@Bones said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@sparky yes.
Doesn't look quick. Actually is very.
He's bogan Cory Toole. He's quick.
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@mohikamo said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@MN5 said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
Apparently Brad Thorn was bloody good at this facet of the game
He was.
And I saw a comment he made that rugby league players had no conception of the amount of power that was generated in a rugby union scrum.Terry O'Connor, the outstanding Great Britain League prop said after playing Union (against Bath in a '95 cross-code game) he had no idea how physically demanding Union forward play was.
Said he'd never been so physically-drained in his life.
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@booboo said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@ACT-Crusader said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
Scotland: Kinghorn; Graham, Hutchinson, Tuipulotu (capt) Steyn; Russell, White; Schoeman, Ashman, Rae, Gilchrist, Cummings, Brown, M Fagerson, Dempsey.
Replacements: Turner, Sutherland, Millar-Mills, Sykes, Darge, Bayliss, Dobie, Jordan.No DvdM? Injured?
If they’ve ’rotated’ him they deserve to lose. Steyn is journeymanish in comparison. Idiots.
Fucken ridiculous. Is it cos he only managed two tries against the US ?
All Blacks by 30+
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@sparky said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
As always, I'd have had DMac at 10 ahead of Beauden Barrett and Ruben Love at fullback with Will Jordan in his natural position of Right Wing.
Nods all round to the front five, the starting midfield and Cam Roigard at Half Back.
Not so happy about the midget backrow quartet. This is a Rugby Test Match, not a Hobbit convention. It makes the exclusion of Dalton Papalii and Hoskins Sotutu even worse if Luke Jacobson and Samipeni Finau are in the squad as foodbills.
I'd have had Reiko Ioane on the bench ahead of Billy Proctor.
Hopefully we'll be far too good for Scotland anyway.
It’s hilarious and slightly disconcerting that guys about 6 2 in the old language are referred to like this.
They’ll at least provide energy that Parker didn’t who seemed to play with a double strength Rueben Thorne invisibility cloak.
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@MN5 dropping Duhan the destroyer is bizzare isn't it.. Kyle has been very good for Glasgow in his time but is no threat to the vaunted All Blacks, if Scotland don't get close this weekend then Townsend should walk to be honest, he's had a golden generation of Scotland players at his feet and what has he managed to achieve other than the odd win against England?
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Loosie size shouldn't really be an issue against the Scots, and this sort of horses for courses rotation would be fine - if we had an established combo who were working well together against the bigger sides. But we don't, so this looks to me like wasting an opportunity to sort our shit out.
Assuming this isn't a total about face on 'test footy being a big man's game' of course. -
Despite some reservations about the side Scott Robertson and co have selected, I'm feeling pretty good about this one.
ABs by 10-15.
