Scotland v All Blacks
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@nostrildamus said in Scotland v All Blacks:
@game_film said in Scotland v All Blacks:
@nostrildamus Gregor Paul. He’s writing about the ABs being spooked beyond their normal selves but we’ve been accustomed to seeing them in games like these many times lately.
I'm getting less and less impressed by his analyses...
I'm impressed that's possible.
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@antipodean said in Scotland v All Blacks:
@nostrildamus said in Scotland v All Blacks:
@game_film said in Scotland v All Blacks:
@nostrildamus Gregor Paul. He’s writing about the ABs being spooked beyond their normal selves but we’ve been accustomed to seeing them in games like these many times lately.
I'm getting less and less impressed by his analyses...
I'm impressed that's possible.
Witty!
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@pakman said in Scotland v All Blacks:
Bumped into Razor this morning. He joked about the number of replay checks in vain on DMac try!
You should've bumped harder.
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@antipodean said in Scotland v All Blacks:
@pakman said in Scotland v All Blacks:
Bumped into Razor this morning. He joked about the number of replay checks in vain on DMac try!
You should've bumped harder.
In the head. Might have knocked some sense into him
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@pakman said in Scotland v All Blacks:
Bumped into Razor this morning.
Did you say your name was Dalton?
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@pakman The local TV producer is definitely 16th man when you play away in certain countries.
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As great as the finish was the defensive effort was poor
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@nostrildamus Shhh!
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@pakman Great to know the proud Fern tradition of stalking is alive and well.
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@MiketheSnow said in Scotland v All Blacks:
As great as the finish was the defensive effort was poor
Right in front of where I was sitting. Live I couldn’t see any way he could have avoided being bundled out. Talk about stopping on a dime!
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@His-Bobness The whole thing makes me nervous. For better or worse we should be developing alternative players at 10.
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@pakman It's absolutely incredible work by DMac to hold onto the ball given the way he is shifting his weight and rebalancing and contorting his body.
Years and years of touch footy and conditioning allowing him to add to the All Blacks legacy. Beautiful.
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@cgrant said in Scotland v All Blacks:
Though Roigard had a poor game by his standards, he's still the best halfback in NZ by a country mile.
If barrett is at 10 we need more sniping from 9 and run the game from 10.
Otherwise its just shovelling on from Barret and pop gun kicks
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I think I get the problem now. The coaches have an idea of the sort of player profile they want to fit a team, but have little regard for utilising key unique strengths and fostering combinations that are at odds with or tangential to their team vision.
I suspect they are victims of their Crusader-level success. They need to be more flexible, unpredictable, and resourceful. -
I thought it was a great game to watch, if somewhat frustrating at times. A good first half before another inconsistent 2nd half, mostly caused by poor decision-making and ill-discipline. The Tupaea-Fainga’anuku midfield struggled defensively at times – against, to be fair, a very well-coordinated Scottish attack – but I think it’s worth persevering with.
There are not a huge number of areas in which the ABs are improving but offloading, with Fainga’anuku at the forefront, has consistently become a bigger and bigger facet of the AB attack. Unsurprisingly, there is a correlation between successful offloads and higher numbers in both line breaks and post-contact metres, as a shifting point of attack becomes much more difficult to contain for a defensive line under pressure.
After a rather conservative TRC – the Wellington spectacle notwithstanding – the ABs are starting to keep the ball alive in attack more
Defences which are set well typically require offloading as a way to get in behind (looking at you, Eden Park Wallabies). Exceptional defences, however (Cake Tin Springboks), can sustain high numbers of opposition line breaks (9) and offloads (8) without suffering on the scoreboardWhile Fainga’anuku is leading the way in offloading in the past two Tests (2 against Ireland, 3 against Scotland), his desire to keep the ball alive in attack is more and more shared by his teammates. What it does, is put the ABs behind the defensive line, creating doubt in the mind of Scottish defenders as well as a defensive line that is being pushed backwards. Just one phase before the Josh Lord-snipe through the ruck, Fainga’anuku, Clarke and Tupaea cause some havoc out wide, using the offload to keep the ball alive.
One phase later, Cummings is directing defensive numbers towards the right while Ashman only has eyes for Roigard and the attacking shape that the ABs are setting up, completely switching off for his duties as the pillar defender.
Two of Lord’s more outstanding abilities are his game intelligence and his ballhandling, both of which were on clear display for Roigard’s tryThrough the offload, quite a few opportunities were created in the first half, a few of which probably should’ve been finished. In the 9th minute, the ABs make good inroads through short passes at the line, before the ball is eventually moved wide. Tupaea squares up before throwing a beautiful cross-the-face pass to Sititi, who keeps the move alive by throwing the one-handed offload back inside after contact.
If the ABs would’ve been able to better manipulate the space against the two last Scottish defenders – Carter throwing the behind-pass to Clarke or Clarke running a switch to give Taylor another passing option on the outside – another score seems inevitable.
Around 10 minutes later, the ABs would once again be around the Scottish 22. This time, they would attack the space around the ruck rather than out wide, with forwards flooding the space and keeping the ball alive after Roigard made a short incision around the Scottish breakdown. Holland makes proper use of his long leavers to free the ball and put Jordan through the gap.
Ironically, the ABs became much too conservative once inside the Scottish 22, turning to one-off carries and pick-and-go’s which were easily absorbed by Scottish defenders. It’s ironic because it is pretty much the inverse of the Argentina Tests: in those two matches, the ABs barely created anything but were lethal once they were inside the Argentina 22, using intricate strike moves from set piece (4.7 points per entry in Argentina I). Little evidence could be found of such intricacies inside the Scottish 22, however, as the ABs consistently ignored both the space as well as their teammates already there.
A point of focus for the English Test will be to finish any line breaks that are made, rather than get bogged down and turned over in the opposition redzone. The midfield-axis of Tupaea and Fainga’anuku will again be seriously tested on defence, as the English attack has come on in leaps and bounds since the previous meeting of these two teams. Then again, the AB attack is evolving as well, using the offload the find space both through the middle and out wide.
The side which will be able to best contain and disrupt the other’s attacking structures is most likely to come out on top, in my view.
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Excellent analysis! From where I sat Leicester was a bit rocks and diamonds. Attempting offloads does lead to more errors, when sometimes just retaining possession is better option.
Was sitting behind posts and in first 30 noticeable that for all the lovely handling, AB backs were tending to run diagonally which shut down space for wingers. Needed the occasional cut back or just hard straight carry to keep Scots honest.
Also, delaying pass until tackler committed seems to be a lost centre art. Of recent times only recall Jack Goodhue being good at that.
Sort that and more opportunities will be converted, I’d have thought.
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@pakman the flip side though is pass and back up, let the ball do some of the work to create space. Can't do that if you're tackled as you pass.
Also can't do that if you throw a shitty ball that support has to stop/stray for and support tucks it.
