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England v All Blacks

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    Twickenham is an awful stadium too.

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    • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

      Twickenham is an awful stadium too.

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      @BerniesCorner said in England Vs All Blacks:

      Twickenham is an awful stadium too.

      82,000 people can make a lot of noise if they want to, but as a spectator it's a less enjoyable experience than Wembley, the Emirates or the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. Only the London Stadium (West Ham's ground) is worse of the major London stadiums.

      Eventually it will need to be demolished and totally rebuilt or sold off.

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        England have named their squad for Saturday. The additional of Elliot Daly and Max Ojomoh the only changes.

        https://twitter.com/englandrugby/status/1987580964663431205?s=46

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          I’d like to see full Irish bench.

          Same starters except QT at 12 and Billy P at 13.

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            My Backline for England: 9. Roigard 10. DMac 11. LF 12. Tupaea 13. Proctor 14. Jordan 15. Love

            Carter has been a bit average the last two tests so might be worthwhile giving him a spell. Beaudy to covere 10 and 15 from the bench where I think he's the most impactful these days.

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              Clarke out. I think I’d prefer Rieko to get a start there, rather than start monkeying around with other things.

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                Clarke out. I think I’d prefer Rieko to get a start there, rather than start monkeying around with other things.

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                @pakman said in England Vs All Blacks:

                Clarke out. I think I’d prefer Rieko to get a start there, rather than start monkeying around with other things.

                Yep, Proctor who has been underwhelming all year isn't going to scare England like QT and LF could well do. Ioane in as a straight swap as the only change ( I won't even bother suggesting McKenzie over BB, won't happen )

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                  So now we are getting into the three tests in a row theory. They were starting to look pretty tired some of them. The bench made a difference. Is a bit of rotation a possibility?

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    My Backline for England: 9. Roigard 10. DMac 11. LF 12. Tupaea 13. Proctor 14. Jordan 15. Love

                    Carter has been a bit average the last two tests so might be worthwhile giving him a spell. Beaudy to covere 10 and 15 from the bench where I think he's the most impactful these days.

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                    @Canes4life said in England Vs All Blacks:

                    My Backline for England: 9. Roigard 10. DMac 11. LF 12. Tupaea 13. Proctor 14. Jordan 15. Love

                    Carter has been a bit average the last two tests so might be worthwhile giving him a spell. Beaudy to covere 10 and 15 from the bench where I think he's the most impactful these days.

                    Gotta get Proctor in somehow eh.

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                    • B brodean

                      So now we are getting into the three tests in a row theory. They were starting to look pretty tired some of them. The bench made a difference. Is a bit of rotation a possibility?

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                      @brodean yeah Razor doesnt seem to subscribe to that theory, given this match was always likely to be the toughest he does like to play 'his best' side each week.

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                        I’m worried about this one. England have genuine depth in most positions and overwhelmingly so at the loose forward position so the breakdown maybe a long night.

                        Their strength – kicking and chasing contestable kicks is our weakness. In the Aussie game they created a semicircle of 3 player around the kick contest to cleanup the intentional tap-backs or get a jackal if it goes the other way. (A decent strategy I’d like us to do.)

                        We know what they’re going to do all night - I’d select our team with this in mind.

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                          @Canes4life said in England Vs All Blacks:

                          My Backline for England: 9. Roigard 10. DMac 11. LF 12. Tupaea 13. Proctor 14. Jordan 15. Love

                          Carter has been a bit average the last two tests so might be worthwhile giving him a spell. Beaudy to covere 10 and 15 from the bench where I think he's the most impactful these days.

                          Gotta get Proctor in somehow eh.

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                          @Frank said in England Vs All Blacks:

                          @Canes4life said in England Vs All Blacks:

                          My Backline for England: 9. Roigard 10. DMac 11. LF 12. Tupaea 13. Proctor 14. Jordan 15. Love

                          Carter has been a bit average the last two tests so might be worthwhile giving him a spell. Beaudy to covere 10 and 15 from the bench where I think he's the most impactful these days.

                          Gotta get Proctor in somehow eh.

                          Yeah any excuse to shoehorn him in.

                          He'll get a run vs Wales if he's lucky. No chance in a huge game like this.

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                            I doubt we'll see many changes. Other than a couple of players out with and back from injury, the only points of interest will be whether or not Carter is punished for his foot trip (I doubt he will be) and if they go back to a bigger blindside and confirm they were only prepared to play the weekend's loose forward combo against that particular opposition.

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                              I doubt we'll see many changes. Other than a couple of players out with and back from injury, the only points of interest will be whether or not Carter is punished for his foot trip (I doubt he will be) and if they go back to a bigger blindside and confirm they were only prepared to play the weekend's loose forward combo against that particular opposition.

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                              @ShaquilleOatmeal said in England Vs All Blacks:

                              I doubt we'll see many changes. Other than a couple of players out with and back from injury, the only points of interest will be whether or not Carter is punished for his foot trip (I doubt he will be) and if they go back to a bigger blindside and confirm they were only prepared to play the weekend's loose forward combo against that particular opposition.

                              I suspect there is less chance to punish Carter given Clarke is out.

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                                UK bookies currently make England the slight favourites for this one. A rare test where the ABs go into the contest as underdogs.

                                https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/internationals/england-v-new-zealand/winner

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                                • J jimmyb

                                  Is there anyone in Nz rugby who can catch a high ? Who ever it is, they can’t start

                                  60% of restarts won. That’s fucking awful

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                                  @jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:

                                  Is there anyone in Nz rugby who can catch a high ? Who ever it is, they can’t start

                                  60% of restarts won. That’s fucking awful

                                  3 out of 5. Lakai dropped one, can’t recall who dropped the other. Lord?

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                                    Last year at Twickers we scraped by with Sititi/ Cane/ Savea and Finau on the bench.

                                    Ardie is a guaranteed starter. So who plays at 6 and 8.

                                    I would actually select Finau and tell him to rip in. Does his form warrant it? Probably not. Do we need some size at 6? Yep. Why not Parker? I think for a player in his first season he’s done some good things but still has areas of improvement and very much a work in progress.

                                    I’d keep Lakai at 8 and Sititi in the bench impact/cover role.

                                    Same tight 5 starters and bench.

                                    I think they should keep the same midfield for this one. Ioane to left wing.

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                                      The replacement for Clarke will tell us the pecking order for centre and left wing. If they stick with the same midfield then Ioane over Reece is the better option in the no.11 jersey. But if LF is moved to be the power winger then their choice at centre becomes much more interesting.

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                                        The replacement for Clarke will tell us the pecking order for centre and left wing. If they stick with the same midfield then Ioane over Reece is the better option in the no.11 jersey. But if LF is moved to be the power winger then their choice at centre becomes much more interesting.

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                                        @Bovidae from a pragmatic perspective they’d have to go with the starting midfield again. It’s not like we have many combinations to call upon with our number 1 2nd 5 out.

                                        A case of they’ll be better for the run!

                                        Ioane was our left wing to start the season when Clark was out of the team, go back to the well I say. A bit like my call to bring Finau back.

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                                          Ok maybe unpopular thought, but with Clarke out, I wouldn't mind seeing LF move out to wing, and maybe play RI at 13 . I worry we will need pretty good defence in midfield, as perhaps the Pommy pack may cause us problems.

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