All Blacks 2025
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Here’s a link to some footage of the ABs training in England this week…
The team is practicing “falling offloads” for fucks sake.
Never mind high balls, ruck work, etc. right?
Well would see nothing wrong with practiicing offloads etc, unless you saw whole training session, I think perhaps it a stretch to even think nothing else was trained.
I mean even when I played (and coached etc) we never just trained one thing at any training . -
Jacobsen should take a contract in Japan while he still can. Far too many head knocks for his own good, and unable to be trusted to stay fit for the ABs
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Here’s a link to some footage of the ABs training in England this week…
The team is practicing “falling offloads” for fucks sake.
Never mind high balls, ruck work, etc. right?
Well would see nothing wrong with practiicing offloads etc, unless you saw whole training session, I think perhaps it a stretch to even think nothing else was trained.
I mean even when I played (and coached etc) we never just trained one thing at any training .I mean, no shit.
But working on falling offloads considering the glaring flaws we have as a team, seems and looks stupid.
Doubt Rassie Erasmus is wasting his time doing falling offload drills.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Doubt Rassie Erasmus is wasting his time doing falling offload drills.
Really? That sounds like a very Rassie thing to do.
I'm told, (repeatedly), that he's quite an innovator.
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@Snowy said in All Blacks 2025:
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Doubt Rassie Erasmus is wasting his time doing falling offload drills.
Really? That sounds like a very Rassie thing to do.
I'm told, (repeatedly), that he's quite an innovator.
Considering Rassie plays high percentage rugby and to SA's strengths... i'm not so sure.
We've seen first-hand how shitty, low percentage offloads can pan out.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Considering Rassie plays high percentage rugby and to SA's strengths... i'm not so sure.
He obviously considers the lineout a strength, given that they can do them all over the field. Not sure about high percentage, but it probably is when they are the only ones in it.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Here’s a link to some footage of the ABs training in England this week…
The team is practicing “falling offloads” for fucks sake.
Never mind high balls, ruck work, etc. right?
Well would see nothing wrong with practiicing offloads etc, unless you saw whole training session, I think perhaps it a stretch to even think nothing else was trained.
I mean even when I played (and coached etc) we never just trained one thing at any training .I mean, no shit.
But working on falling offloads considering the glaring flaws we have as a team, seems and looks stupid.
Doubt Rassie Erasmus is wasting his time doing falling offload drills.
Ok so you seriously don't think they should practice falling offloads?
I would suggest they should if they want to play an up tempo game. I would actually hope they practice most facets of the game. High balls, tackling ,passing, ruck speed, mauling etc.
But perhaps just we see things differently , I think you should go for all skills at test level. -
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Here’s a link to some footage of the ABs training in England this week…
The team is practicing “falling offloads” for fucks sake.
Never mind high balls, ruck work, etc. right?
Well would see nothing wrong with practiicing offloads etc, unless you saw whole training session, I think perhaps it a stretch to even think nothing else was trained.
I mean even when I played (and coached etc) we never just trained one thing at any training .I mean, no shit.
But working on falling offloads considering the glaring flaws we have as a team, seems and looks stupid.
Doubt Rassie Erasmus is wasting his time doing falling offload drills.
Ok so you seriously don't think they should practice falling offloads?
I would suggest they should if they want to play an up tempo game. I would actually hope they practice most facets of the game. High balls, tackling ,passing, ruck speed, mauling etc.
But perhaps just we see things differently , I think you should go for all skills at test level.Jonah was great at standing offloads when guys did enough to stop him while not bringing him to ground. Those were always great attacking moves.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Here’s a link to some footage of the ABs training in England this week…
The team is practicing “falling offloads” for fucks sake.
Never mind high balls, ruck work, etc. right?
Well would see nothing wrong with practiicing offloads etc, unless you saw whole training session, I think perhaps it a stretch to even think nothing else was trained.
I mean even when I played (and coached etc) we never just trained one thing at any training .I mean, no shit.
But working on falling offloads considering the glaring flaws we have as a team, seems and looks stupid.
Doubt Rassie Erasmus is wasting his time doing falling offload drills.
No falling offloads but the practicing of the midfield lineouts has worked wonders.
Did someone say look stupid…….
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Jacobsen should take a contract in Japan while he still can. Far too many head knocks for his own good, and unable to be trusted to stay fit for the ABs
Lucky that the chiefs signed a great new young 7, given this obvious risk.
Wait.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Jacobsen should take a contract in Japan while he still can. Far too many head knocks for his own good, and unable to be trusted to stay fit for the ABs
Lucky that the chiefs signed a great new young 7, given this obvious risk.
Wait.
Wait, did they just let one go?!
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Jacobsen should take a contract in Japan while he still can. Far too many head knocks for his own good, and unable to be trusted to stay fit for the ABs
Lucky that the chiefs signed a great new young 7, given this obvious risk.
Wait.
Wait, did they just let one go?!
O Mathis who signed with the Crusaders on a multi year deal I believe is the reference here
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
Jacobsen should take a contract in Japan while he still can. Far too many head knocks for his own good, and unable to be trusted to stay fit for the ABs
Lucky that the chiefs signed a great new young 7, given this obvious risk.
Wait.
Wait, did they just let one go?!
O Mathis who signed with the Crusaders on a multi year deal I believe is the reference here
Ugh
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Ok so you seriously don't think they should practice falling offloads?
I would suggest they should if they want to play an up tempo game. I would actually hope they practice most facets of the game. High balls, tackling ,passing, ruck speed, mauling etc.
But perhaps just we see things differently , I think you should go for all skills at test level.Fair enough. Personally I would rather they spent more time practicing the above in bold and other core roles.
Falling offloads are a low percentage play. Most of our players are already good at offloading anyway.
I don't really want to see Du'Plessis Kirifi throwing these offloads in a test match like in the video.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Ok so you seriously don't think they should practice falling offloads?
I would suggest they should if they want to play an up tempo game. I would actually hope they practice most facets of the game. High balls, tackling ,passing, ruck speed, mauling etc.
But perhaps just we see things differently , I think you should go for all skills at test level.Fair enough. Personally I would rather they spent more time practicing the above in bold and other core roles.
Falling offloads are a low percentage play. Most of our players are already good at offloading anyway.
I don't really want to see Du'Plessis Kirifi throwing these offloads in a test match like in the video.
It's pretty contrived. Falling over with control and no pressure isn't going to happen in a game.
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Ok so you seriously don't think they should practice falling offloads?
I would suggest they should if they want to play an up tempo game. I would actually hope they practice most facets of the game. High balls, tackling ,passing, ruck speed, mauling etc.
But perhaps just we see things differently , I think you should go for all skills at test level.Fair enough. Personally I would rather they spent more time practicing the above in bold and other core roles.
Falling offloads are a low percentage play. Most of our players are already good at offloading anyway.
I don't really want to see Du'Plessis Kirifi throwing these offloads in a test match like in the video.
It's pretty contrived. Falling over with control and no pressure isn't going to happen in a game.
Especially if you don't practice it.
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Given some of our plays from the past 5 or 6 years, you wonder what they practice
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And just to advocate for the devil even more. One of the most commented on, frustrating things from the past few years is when we've very rarely seen the ABs absolutely dominate with their "up the middle", fast paced game played around the breakdown with offloads and quick ball, bodies in motion.
When it's been pulled out it's been devastating for opposition and it's extremely rarely used - I'm definitely not against seeing more of it.
