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    @reprobate

    Your are guna fuck'n hate this.

    I'd say they had a budgetary choice to make; Lendrum and the money men that is.
    RM or BB.
    And . . . this is what you are guna fuckin hate . . . BB got the nod for PR reasons.

    But we'll keep chattering to Richie, stay on his good side, see what happens.

    The saffas dont have to make that sort of call.

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    @mohikamo said in Exodus:

    @reprobate

    Your are guna fuck'n hate this.

    I'd say they had a budgetary choice to make; Lendrum and the money men that is.
    RM or BB.
    And . . . this is what you are guna fuckin hate . . . BB got the nod for PR reasons.

    But we'll keep chattering to Richie, stay on his good side, see what happens.

    The saffas dont have to make that sort of call.

    Well, unless you're wrong, you're not wrong, I do hate that.

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    I hope Sotutu goes, because one way or another we’ll get some sort of answer of whether he has been so hard done by.

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    @frugby said in Exodus:

    I hope Sotutu goes, because one way or another we’ll get some sort of answer of whether he has been so hard done by.

    What if he goes to Japan and plays for Fiji. What sort of answer will get out of that?

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    Blues and NZ u20 Lock/6 Randell Baker (20) signs for Canon Eagles in Japan.
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    @brodean said in Exodus:

    @frugby said in Exodus:

    I hope Sotutu goes, because one way or another we’ll get some sort of answer of whether he has been so hard done by.

    What if he goes to Japan and plays for Fiji. What sort of answer will get out of that?

    More money to be made in the UK, and the chance to rub it in Razor's face at RWC27

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    @Daffy-Jaffy Do many U20 players sign overseas in the same year that they played?

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    @canefan said in Exodus:

    @brodean said in Exodus:

    @frugby said in Exodus:

    I hope Sotutu goes, because one way or another we’ll get some sort of answer of whether he has been so hard done by.

    What if he goes to Japan and plays for Fiji. What sort of answer will get out of that?

    More money to be made in the UK, and the chance to rub it in Razor's face at RWC27

    If there is more money to go to be made in UK why didn't RMo go there?

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    @brodean That's obviously not what I was referring to.

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    @brodean said in Exodus:

    @canefan said in Exodus:

    @brodean said in Exodus:

    @frugby said in Exodus:

    I hope Sotutu goes, because one way or another we’ll get some sort of answer of whether he has been so hard done by.

    What if he goes to Japan and plays for Fiji. What sort of answer will get out of that?

    More money to be made in the UK, and the chance to rub it in Razor's face at RWC27

    If there is more money to go to be made in UK why didn't RMo go there?

    Maybe he likes sushi? It's an easier game in Japan and perhaps he always knew he would come back and play in the ABs. If Hoskins wants to play for one of the top test teams England is his logical destination

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    The three highest paid players in the world are Finn Russell, Kolbe & Mo'unga.

    Russell is Baths marquee player so doesn't count towards their salary cap.

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    If someone leaves and comes back really just for the world cup, is clearly No1, helps us the world cup.
    I think I am ok with that. In fact I'd buy the guy a beer for winning the world cup for us.

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    @Darren said in Exodus:

    If someone leaves and comes back really just for the world cup, is clearly No1, helps us the world cup.
    I think I am ok with that. In fact I'd buy the guy a beer for winning the world cup for us.

    Doesnt mean the coach should fuck around and not develop players in that guy's position in the years while he's waiting. How many 10s did we crock in 2011? Razor is clearly not a history student

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    @canefan if you include Weepu stepping in at 10 for parts of a.game too....

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    @taniwharugby said in Exodus:

    @canefan if you include Weepu stepping in at 10 for parts of a.game too....

    I would. If he didn't go down hurt we wouldn't have used Beaver for starters

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    @Tim said in Exodus:

    Do many U20 players sign overseas in the same year that they played?

    Very unusual, but younger players will be tempted by a contract now rather than waiting for an opportunity in NZ. I posted about Pyrenees Boyle-Tiatia going to Bayonne, and he is even younger.

    Leon MacDonald is the Yokohama coach. Sam Caird has also signed for them.

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    @canefan so who would our #5 be right now then...Reihana?

    At least Beaver had played test rugby.

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    @Chris-B said in Exodus:

    "over-hyped little Cantab" was one of the terms.

    @reprobate said in Exodus:

    Mounga was the starting 10. It's the most influential position on the field. Of course he's a big loss

    Mo'unga is 70% win rate as a starter for ABs.

    Overall vs Top 6: 17/28 (61%)
    Without Australia: 9/18 (50%)
    vs NH: 2/6 (33%)

    Opponent Record
    Argentina 4-2
    South Africa 3-3
    Australia 8-1-1
    Ireland 2-0
    France 0-2
    England 0-1-1

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    @nzzp said in Exodus:

    @Chris-B said in Exodus:

    "over-hyped little Cantab" was one of the terms.

    @reprobate said in Exodus:

    Mounga was the starting 10. It's the most influential position on the field. Of course he's a big loss

    Mo'unga is 70% win rate as a starter for ABs.

    Overall vs Top 6: 17/28 (61%)
    Without Australia: 9/18 (50%)
    vs NH: 2/6 (33%)

    Opponent Record
    Argentina 4-2
    South Africa 3-3
    Australia 8-1-1
    Ireland 2-0
    France 0-2
    England 0-1-1

    Both can be true. If the alternative is Barrett, Mounga is a huge loss. And he's overhyped in that he is being allowed to do something at the expense of NZ rugby, and the ABs are basically on hold for him.

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    @reprobate said in Exodus:

    If the alternative is Barrett, Mounga is a huge loss.

    Took 4 years for Mo'unga to really start to play well at the top level. Is he better than BB? Almost certainly now - but the issue is the coaches have barely tried anyone but Beaudy.

    I don't think RM was good enough to justify waltzing back in as starting 10 for the ABs. And I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect he may struggle to slot in after that much time again.

    anyway, he's a rorschach test for people - you either see a midget mercenary or a super successful player who should be rolled straight back into 10.

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