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  • H hikastags

    Quite surprised by the amount of people that are keen for us to keep practicing low percentage plays. Hilarious.

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    @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

    Quite surprised by the amount of people that are keen for us to keep practicing low percentage plays. Hilarious.

    Yeah true, shouldn't practice box kick reception at all, great point.

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    • BonesB Bones

      @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

      Quite surprised by the amount of people that are keen for us to keep practicing low percentage plays. Hilarious.

      Yeah true, shouldn't practice box kick reception at all, great point.

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      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

      @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

      Quite surprised by the amount of people that are keen for us to keep practicing low percentage plays. Hilarious.

      Yeah true, shouldn't practice box kick reception at all, great point.

      That's not a low percentage play. Du'Plessis Kirifi and Peter Lakai throwing offloads 2cm above the ground is a low percentage play.

      Great point, sounds like a winner.

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      • D Darren

        Comical how a short clip of a few guys practicing offloads is getting people so worked up.

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        @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

        Comical how a short clip of a few guys practicing offloads is getting people so worked up.

        Worked up for pointing out the complete stupidity of it considering all our other flaws in our core roles. You must think we're good at our core roles? Lol.

        Lineout has regressed over the season, still can't take high balls, can't kick accurately, can't throw a straight lineout, can't kick chase, can't clean rucks effectively to play uptempo as everyone is saying we should do LOL.

        But yeah, let's work on falling offloads.... Hopefully we're working on bounce passes next to keep our tempo!

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        • H hikastags

          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

          @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

          Quite surprised by the amount of people that are keen for us to keep practicing low percentage plays. Hilarious.

          Yeah true, shouldn't practice box kick reception at all, great point.

          That's not a low percentage play. Du'Plessis Kirifi and Peter Lakai throwing offloads 2cm above the ground is a low percentage play.

          Great point, sounds like a winner.

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          @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

          @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

          Quite surprised by the amount of people that are keen for us to keep practicing low percentage plays. Hilarious.

          Yeah true, shouldn't practice box kick reception at all, great point.

          That's not a low percentage play. Du'Plessis Kirifi and Peter Lakai throwing offloads 2cm above the ground is a low percentage play.

          Great point, sounds like a winner.

          What's the percentage of contestable box kicks being caught?

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          • BonesB Bones

            @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

            @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

            Quite surprised by the amount of people that are keen for us to keep practicing low percentage plays. Hilarious.

            Yeah true, shouldn't practice box kick reception at all, great point.

            That's not a low percentage play. Du'Plessis Kirifi and Peter Lakai throwing offloads 2cm above the ground is a low percentage play.

            Great point, sounds like a winner.

            What's the percentage of contestable box kicks being caught?

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            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

            @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

            @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

            Quite surprised by the amount of people that are keen for us to keep practicing low percentage plays. Hilarious.

            Yeah true, shouldn't practice box kick reception at all, great point.

            That's not a low percentage play. Du'Plessis Kirifi and Peter Lakai throwing offloads 2cm above the ground is a low percentage play.

            Great point, sounds like a winner.

            What's the percentage of contestable box kicks being caught?

            You tell me. Contestable box kicks aren't even about being caught lol. They're about forcing errors in the air. Especially against the All Blacks as they're shit under the high ball. Do you seriously think we are improving there?

            But yeah, stuff catching high balls. Let's practice falling offloads!

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              I kind of think that there has been some irony lost amongst the posts.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                Christ on a bike, this moaning for moaning's sake is getting a bit silly. ABs should apparently either release no media, or only release media of fans popular problem areas, or special tactics.

                I saw footage on the news of them passing, running and then tackling. Lets hope they surprise England this Saturday and don't do any of this.

                Oh fucking hell. Hope like hell there wasn't any footage of them pushing in scrums otherwise we're completely fucked.

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                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                Christ on a bike, this moaning for moaning's sake is getting a bit silly. ABs should apparently either release no media, or only release media of fans popular problem areas, or special tactics.

                I saw footage on the news of them passing, running and then tackling. Lets hope they surprise England this Saturday and don't do any of this.

                Oh fucking hell. Hope like hell there wasn't any footage of them pushing in scrums otherwise we're completely fucked.

                There was a pic of De Groot on the AB FB page showing his bandaged head. Clearly balancing the message and channelling their inner Colin Meads & Buck Shelford.

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                • H hikastags

                  @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Comical how a short clip of a few guys practicing offloads is getting people so worked up.

                  Worked up for pointing out the complete stupidity of it considering all our other flaws in our core roles. You must think we're good at our core roles? Lol.

                  Lineout has regressed over the season, still can't take high balls, can't kick accurately, can't throw a straight lineout, can't kick chase, can't clean rucks effectively to play uptempo as everyone is saying we should do LOL.

                  But yeah, let's work on falling offloads.... Hopefully we're working on bounce passes next to keep our tempo!

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                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                    And just to advocate for the devil even more. One of the most commented on, frustrating things from the past few years is when we've very rarely seen the ABs absolutely dominate with their "up the middle", fast paced game played around the breakdown with offloads and quick ball, bodies in motion.

                    When it's been pulled out it's been devastating for opposition and it's extremely rarely used - I'm definitely not against seeing more of it.

                    Never understood why teams once they get momentum and a 1-2 phases of go forward decide to spin it wide, often with miss passes in midfield

                    The backs are lined up FFS

                    Far more productive to keep it straight, narrow and fast with quick drives, drops, and pick & gos

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                    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                    And just to advocate for the devil even more. One of the most commented on, frustrating things from the past few years is when we've very rarely seen the ABs absolutely dominate with their "up the middle", fast paced game played around the breakdown with offloads and quick ball, bodies in motion.

                    When it's been pulled out it's been devastating for opposition and it's extremely rarely used - I'm definitely not against seeing more of it.

                    Never understood why teams once they get momentum and a 1-2 phases of go forward decide to spin it wide, often with miss passes in midfield

                    The backs are lined up FFS

                    Far more productive to keep it straight, narrow and fast with quick drives, drops, and pick & gos

                    Yep. The aim should be to create space or mismatches before going wide. You need a half line break at least to have a set backline backpedalling enough for it to be useful - a gainline+ hit up or two is nowhere near sufficient in itself.
                    But if you can manipulate things - commit a few of the opposition backs to make tackles on forwards, re-align your backline while you're doing it to leave their forwards defending backs, or a small back defending someone like Sititi -those mismatches you're after and appropriate support runners, then you're in business.

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      @No-Quarter I have a great solution that would get rid of contested kicking: You kick it and contest, the defending team can smash you in the air.

                      That would see a change in tactics.

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                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @No-Quarter I have a great solution that would get rid of contested kicking: You kick it and contest, the defending team can smash you in the air.

                      That would see a change in tactics.

                      Outlaw attacking players contesting at all. Safer, less useful tactic, more attacking rugby.
                      Or when they're not trying to catch it and fuck it up, rule it a deliberate knock on and yellow card the fluffybunnies.

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                        I reckon Borthwick will be shitting himself.

                        How do you counter an uncontested falling offload?

                        It's like the Crane Kick in the Karate Kid - undefendable. I'm guessing Richie the Mo has tracked down some sort of rugby version of Mr Miyagi for Razor!

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                        • H hikastags

                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Quite surprised by the amount of people that are keen for us to keep practicing low percentage plays. Hilarious.

                          Yeah true, shouldn't practice box kick reception at all, great point.

                          That's not a low percentage play. Du'Plessis Kirifi and Peter Lakai throwing offloads 2cm above the ground is a low percentage play.

                          Great point, sounds like a winner.

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                          @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                          . Du'Plessis Kirifi and Peter Lakai throwing offloads 2cm above the ground is a low percentage play.

                          what, standing up like Ardie?

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Quite surprised by the amount of people that are keen for us to keep practicing low percentage plays. Hilarious.

                            Yeah true, shouldn't practice box kick reception at all, great point.

                            That's not a low percentage play. Du'Plessis Kirifi and Peter Lakai throwing offloads 2cm above the ground is a low percentage play.

                            Great point, sounds like a winner.

                            What's the percentage of contestable box kicks being caught?

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                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Quite surprised by the amount of people that are keen for us to keep practicing low percentage plays. Hilarious.

                            Yeah true, shouldn't practice box kick reception at all, great point.

                            That's not a low percentage play. Du'Plessis Kirifi and Peter Lakai throwing offloads 2cm above the ground is a low percentage play.

                            Great point, sounds like a winner.

                            What's the percentage of contestable box kicks being caught?

                            According to Dagg, 0% for Reiko and 100% for any Cantab.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Quite surprised by the amount of people that are keen for us to keep practicing low percentage plays. Hilarious.

                              Yeah true, shouldn't practice box kick reception at all, great point.

                              That's not a low percentage play. Du'Plessis Kirifi and Peter Lakai throwing offloads 2cm above the ground is a low percentage play.

                              Great point, sounds like a winner.

                              What's the percentage of contestable box kicks being caught?

                              According to Dagg, 0% for Reiko and 100% for any Cantab.

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                              @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Quite surprised by the amount of people that are keen for us to keep practicing low percentage plays. Hilarious.

                              Yeah true, shouldn't practice box kick reception at all, great point.

                              That's not a low percentage play. Du'Plessis Kirifi and Peter Lakai throwing offloads 2cm above the ground is a low percentage play.

                              Great point, sounds like a winner.

                              What's the percentage of contestable box kicks being caught?

                              According to Dagg, 0% for Reiko and 100% for any Cantab.

                              He made it out like that was the case after the Argentina loss so yeah, you're fairly accurate with that.

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                              • H hikastags

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Quite surprised by the amount of people that are keen for us to keep practicing low percentage plays. Hilarious.

                                Yeah true, shouldn't practice box kick reception at all, great point.

                                That's not a low percentage play. Du'Plessis Kirifi and Peter Lakai throwing offloads 2cm above the ground is a low percentage play.

                                Great point, sounds like a winner.

                                What's the percentage of contestable box kicks being caught?

                                You tell me. Contestable box kicks aren't even about being caught lol. They're about forcing errors in the air. Especially against the All Blacks as they're shit under the high ball. Do you seriously think we are improving there?

                                But yeah, stuff catching high balls. Let's practice falling offloads!

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                                @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Quite surprised by the amount of people that are keen for us to keep practicing low percentage plays. Hilarious.

                                Yeah true, shouldn't practice box kick reception at all, great point.

                                That's not a low percentage play. Du'Plessis Kirifi and Peter Lakai throwing offloads 2cm above the ground is a low percentage play.

                                Great point, sounds like a winner.

                                What's the percentage of contestable box kicks being caught?

                                You tell me. Contestable box kicks aren't even about being caught lol. They're about forcing errors in the air. Especially against the All Blacks as they're shit under the high ball. Do you seriously think we are improving there?

                                But yeah, stuff catching high balls. Let's practice falling offloads!

                                You aren't going to beat my broken record Jordaning with your ridiculous assertion that a few seconds long puff piece on social media equates to the only thing ABs are training and the reason for their failures elsewhere.

                                I would say give it up, but it's pretty funny.

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                                  So a question.

                                  If you assume that Scooter is going to be picked because he's the captain.

                                  If all of our locks are fit - who else gets to play?

                                  Vaa'i, Tuipolotu, Holland, Lord, Darry

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                                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                    So a question.

                                    If you assume that Scooter is going to be picked because he's the captain.

                                    If all of our locks are fit - who else gets to play?

                                    Vaa'i, Tuipolotu, Holland, Lord, Darry

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                                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    So a question.

                                    If you assume that Scooter is going to be picked because he's the captain.

                                    If all of our locks are fit - who else gets to play?

                                    Vaa'i, Tuipolotu, Holland, Lord, Darry

                                    You've summed up the issues with this AB team.
                                    Form doesn't matter if you are one of those who can't be touched.

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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      So a question.

                                      If you assume that Scooter is going to be picked because he's the captain.

                                      If all of our locks are fit - who else gets to play?

                                      Vaa'i, Tuipolotu, Holland, Lord, Darry

                                      You've summed up the issues with this AB team.
                                      Form doesn't matter if you are one of those who can't be touched.

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                                      @gt12 Well, it's not often the captain gets dumped - you have to go back to about 1989.

                                      And it's a boring question if you allow Scott to be dumped, since a fair proportion of non-Crusaders fans will advocate for it.

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        So a question.

                                        If you assume that Scooter is going to be picked because he's the captain.

                                        If all of our locks are fit - who else gets to play?

                                        Vaa'i, Tuipolotu, Holland, Lord, Darry

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                                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        So a question.

                                        If you assume that Scooter is going to be picked because he's the captain.

                                        If all of our locks are fit - who else gets to play?

                                        Vaa'i, Tuipolotu, Holland, Lord, Darry

                                        Form wise, I'd probably plump for PT and FH, but very tough on Va'ai - I'm not averse to seeing more of him at 6. Lord and Darry can bide their time, pretty tough on Darry too.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          So a question.

                                          If you assume that Scooter is going to be picked because he's the captain.

                                          If all of our locks are fit - who else gets to play?

                                          Vaa'i, Tuipolotu, Holland, Lord, Darry

                                          Form wise, I'd probably plump for PT and FH, but very tough on Va'ai - I'm not averse to seeing more of him at 6. Lord and Darry can bide their time, pretty tough on Darry too.

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                                          @Bones Holland or Patty on the bench?

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