England v All Blacks

[Grooter]

@hikastags we'll need Will Stodart to put his hand up in super won't we stags that much is obvious

[Bones]

Imagine if Carter, Parker and Proctor made as many mistakes as Jordan...

[jimmyb]

@Grooter said in England Vs All Blacks:

@hikastags we'll need Will Stodart to put his hand up in super won't we stags that much is obvious

Not sure a back rower with a tackle % in the 70s in NPC is the answer

[Victor Meldrew]

@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:

I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks

Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern. Well done sir!

Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.

[jimmyb]

@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:

I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks

Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern.

Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.

The reality is we’ve had two shit coaches in a row with good squads who haven’t reached their potential because of a shit leadership core and crap assistant coaches and head coaches with zero direction

And both foster and razor were nepotism hires for different reasons

[stodders]

@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:

@stodders said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Devon-Kiwi said in England Vs All Blacks:

What a contrast with the Boks

NZ are nearing where the Boks were in 2017

5th in the rankings?

Heading that way

[sparky]

Highlights:

[stodders]

@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:

I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks

Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern. Well done sir!

Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.

That was Schmidt. Come on. Foster’s shitshow was before Schmidt arrived.

[ploughboy]

that loss is 100% on coaches. not just selection but tactics. no one runs on to ball to get over advantage line and defence gives meters away to easy.

[Devon Kiwi]

The English are the worst team in World Rugby to lose to and we did it so well!

[Victor Meldrew]

@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:

I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks

Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern.

Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.

The reality is we’ve had two shit coaches in a row with good squads who haven’t reached their potential because of a shit leadership core and crap assistant coaches and head coaches with zero direction

And both foster and razor were nepotism hires for different reasons

We've gone backward since 2023. But at least we now know simply swapping the coach isn't the answer, eh? Just a pity it's taken 2 years for the penny to drop.

[jimmyb]

@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:

I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks

Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern.

Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.

The reality is we’ve had two shit coaches in a row with good squads who haven’t reached their potential because of a shit leadership core and crap assistant coaches and head coaches with zero direction

And both foster and razor were nepotism hires for different reasons

We've gone backward since 2023. But at least we now know simply swapping the coach isn't the answer, eh? Just a pity it's taken 2 years for the penny to drop.

We were lucky to run into a one dimension Irish team that RWC. 2021 and 2022 were absolutely terrible. We also lost the three players with anything between their ears in Smtih, Retallick, and Whitelock. That pool loss to France was the same old shit. Don’t sugar coat 2023 thinking it was anything but the same old shit since 2020

[Victor Meldrew]

@stodders said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:

I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks

Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern. Well done sir!

Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.

That was Schmidt. Come on. Foster’s shitshow was before Schmidt arrived.

Yeah, nothing structural in NZ rugby needs to be looked at. All hunky-dory. Just need to find that one bloke who'll sort everything out

[Victor Meldrew]

@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:

Don’t sugar coat 2023 thinking it was anything but the same old shit since 2020

Yet we lost the Final by 1 point against one of the best Bok teams of all time - with 14 men. Can you seriously imagine this lot doing that?

[Jet]

@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:

I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks

Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern.

Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.

The reality is we’ve had two shit coaches in a row with good squads who haven’t reached their potential because of a shit leadership core and crap assistant coaches and head coaches with zero direction

And both foster and razor were nepotism hires for different reasons

We've gone backward since 2023. But at least we now know simply swapping the coach isn't the answer, eh? Just a pity it's taken 2 years for the penny to drop.

We were lucky to run into a one dimension Irish team that RWC. 2021 and 2022 were absolutely terrible. We also lost the three players with anything between their ears in Smtih, Retallick, and Whitelock. That pool loss to France was the same old shit. Don’t sugar coat 2023 thinking it was anything but the same old shit since 2020

100% on the money.

Blessed we came up against a geriatric Sexton and Irish team who shot their bolt in the preceding years.

[Jet]

@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:

I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks

Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern.

Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.

The reality is we’ve had two shit coaches in a row with good squads who haven’t reached their potential because of a shit leadership core and crap assistant coaches and head coaches with zero direction

And both foster and razor were nepotism hires for different reasons

And a lot of players feeling unloved and unwanted.

Stevenson, Akira, Papalii, Love, Hoskins.

Even Fakatava has been fucked over to a certain extent.

[Jet]

Razors most important squad was his first one. Against England in NZ. The tone setter.

And he shat the bed. Same old same old. Bar Perofeta.

He could have put everyone on notice. Instead all the incumbents were reassured it was business as usual.

[jimmyb]

The issues with this team were obvious in the semi final loss against England in 2019 and they’re almost identical to what they are now. Absolutely nothing has changed. Literally nothing

[Victor Meldrew]

@Jet said in England Vs All Blacks:

@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:

I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks

Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern.

Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.

The reality is we’ve had two shit coaches in a row with good squads who haven’t reached their potential because of a shit leadership core and crap assistant coaches and head coaches with zero direction

And both foster and razor were nepotism hires for different reasons

We've gone backward since 2023. But at least we now know simply swapping the coach isn't the answer, eh? Just a pity it's taken 2 years for the penny to drop.

We were lucky to run into a one dimension Irish team that RWC. 2021 and 2022 were absolutely terrible. We also lost the three players with anything between their ears in Smtih, Retallick, and Whitelock. That pool loss to France was the same old shit. Don’t sugar coat 2023 thinking it was anything but the same old shit since 2020

100% on the money.

Blessed we came up against a geriatric Sexton and Irish team who shot their bolt in the preceding years.

Yep, after that we needed a coach with a proven record of success, a completely fresh approach and unsullied by involvement in previous AB coaching set-ups.

Working well, isn't it?

[jimmyb]

@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Jet said in England Vs All Blacks:

@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:

@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:

@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:

I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks

Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern.

Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.

The reality is we’ve had two shit coaches in a row with good squads who haven’t reached their potential because of a shit leadership core and crap assistant coaches and head coaches with zero direction

And both foster and razor were nepotism hires for different reasons

We've gone backward since 2023. But at least we now know simply swapping the coach isn't the answer, eh? Just a pity it's taken 2 years for the penny to drop.

We were lucky to run into a one dimension Irish team that RWC. 2021 and 2022 were absolutely terrible. We also lost the three players with anything between their ears in Smtih, Retallick, and Whitelock. That pool loss to France was the same old shit. Don’t sugar coat 2023 thinking it was anything but the same old shit since 2020

100% on the money.

Blessed we came up against a geriatric Sexton and Irish team who shot their bolt in the preceding years.

Yep, after that we needed a coach with a proven record of success, a completely fresh approach and unsullied by involvement in previous AB coaching set-ups.

Working well, isn't it?

Both Foster and Robertson hadn’t proved a thing as an international head coach before taken the reigns and it showed.

Not keeping Schmidt, and bashing Robertson’s ego in with a baseball bat and making him an assistant coach, was a complete fuck up. We could have had Schmidt, Robertson, and McMillan as a coaching team