England v All Blacks
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@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks
Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern.
Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.
The reality is we’ve had two shit coaches in a row with good squads who haven’t reached their potential because of a shit leadership core and crap assistant coaches and head coaches with zero direction
And both foster and razor were nepotism hires for different reasons
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@Bones said in England Vs All Blacks:
@stodders said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Devon-Kiwi said in England Vs All Blacks:
What a contrast with the Boks
NZ are nearing where the Boks were in 2017
5th in the rankings?
Heading that way
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@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks
Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern. Well done sir!
Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.
That was Schmidt. Come on. Foster’s shitshow was before Schmidt arrived.
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The English are the worst team in World Rugby to lose to and we did it so well!
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@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks
Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern.
Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.
The reality is we’ve had two shit coaches in a row with good squads who haven’t reached their potential because of a shit leadership core and crap assistant coaches and head coaches with zero direction
And both foster and razor were nepotism hires for different reasons
We've gone backward since 2023. But at least we now know simply swapping the coach isn't the answer, eh? Just a pity it's taken 2 years for the penny to drop.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks
Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern.
Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.
The reality is we’ve had two shit coaches in a row with good squads who haven’t reached their potential because of a shit leadership core and crap assistant coaches and head coaches with zero direction
And both foster and razor were nepotism hires for different reasons
We've gone backward since 2023. But at least we now know simply swapping the coach isn't the answer, eh? Just a pity it's taken 2 years for the penny to drop.
We were lucky to run into a one dimension Irish team that RWC. 2021 and 2022 were absolutely terrible. We also lost the three players with anything between their ears in Smtih, Retallick, and Whitelock. That pool loss to France was the same old shit. Don’t sugar coat 2023 thinking it was anything but the same old shit since 2020
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@stodders said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks
Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern. Well done sir!
Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.
That was Schmidt. Come on. Foster’s shitshow was before Schmidt arrived.
Yeah, nothing structural in NZ rugby needs to be looked at. All hunky-dory. Just need to find that one bloke who'll sort everything out
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@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:
Don’t sugar coat 2023 thinking it was anything but the same old shit since 2020
Yet we lost the Final by 1 point against one of the best Bok teams of all time - with 14 men. Can you seriously imagine this lot doing that?
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@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks
Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern.
Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.
The reality is we’ve had two shit coaches in a row with good squads who haven’t reached their potential because of a shit leadership core and crap assistant coaches and head coaches with zero direction
And both foster and razor were nepotism hires for different reasons
We've gone backward since 2023. But at least we now know simply swapping the coach isn't the answer, eh? Just a pity it's taken 2 years for the penny to drop.
We were lucky to run into a one dimension Irish team that RWC. 2021 and 2022 were absolutely terrible. We also lost the three players with anything between their ears in Smtih, Retallick, and Whitelock. That pool loss to France was the same old shit. Don’t sugar coat 2023 thinking it was anything but the same old shit since 2020
100% on the money.
Blessed we came up against a geriatric Sexton and Irish team who shot their bolt in the preceding years.
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@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks
Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern.
Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.
The reality is we’ve had two shit coaches in a row with good squads who haven’t reached their potential because of a shit leadership core and crap assistant coaches and head coaches with zero direction
And both foster and razor were nepotism hires for different reasons
And a lot of players feeling unloved and unwanted.
Stevenson, Akira, Papalii, Love, Hoskins.
Even Fakatava has been fucked over to a certain extent.
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@Jet said in England Vs All Blacks:
@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks
Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern.
Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.
The reality is we’ve had two shit coaches in a row with good squads who haven’t reached their potential because of a shit leadership core and crap assistant coaches and head coaches with zero direction
And both foster and razor were nepotism hires for different reasons
We've gone backward since 2023. But at least we now know simply swapping the coach isn't the answer, eh? Just a pity it's taken 2 years for the penny to drop.
We were lucky to run into a one dimension Irish team that RWC. 2021 and 2022 were absolutely terrible. We also lost the three players with anything between their ears in Smtih, Retallick, and Whitelock. That pool loss to France was the same old shit. Don’t sugar coat 2023 thinking it was anything but the same old shit since 2020
100% on the money.
Blessed we came up against a geriatric Sexton and Irish team who shot their bolt in the preceding years.
Yep, after that we needed a coach with a proven record of success, a completely fresh approach and unsullied by involvement in previous AB coaching set-ups.
Working well, isn't it?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Jet said in England Vs All Blacks:
@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:
@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@rewa267 said in England Vs All Blacks:
I think it’s difficult for Razor to get rid of the ill discipline within the All Blacks from the Foster era. We see it in the Chiefs & why they can’t win important games & it’s rares it head in the All Blacks
Blaming Foster & The Chiefs for Robertson's inability to instill on-field discipline after 2 years in charge has to be some of the finest satire or sarcasm I've seen on The Fern.
Right now, I'd fucking love 10% of the discipline & resolve Foster's AB's showed in RWC2023.
The reality is we’ve had two shit coaches in a row with good squads who haven’t reached their potential because of a shit leadership core and crap assistant coaches and head coaches with zero direction
And both foster and razor were nepotism hires for different reasons
We've gone backward since 2023. But at least we now know simply swapping the coach isn't the answer, eh? Just a pity it's taken 2 years for the penny to drop.
We were lucky to run into a one dimension Irish team that RWC. 2021 and 2022 were absolutely terrible. We also lost the three players with anything between their ears in Smtih, Retallick, and Whitelock. That pool loss to France was the same old shit. Don’t sugar coat 2023 thinking it was anything but the same old shit since 2020
100% on the money.
Blessed we came up against a geriatric Sexton and Irish team who shot their bolt in the preceding years.
Yep, after that we needed a coach with a proven record of success, a completely fresh approach and unsullied by involvement in previous AB coaching set-ups.
Working well, isn't it?
Both Foster and Robertson hadn’t proved a thing as an international head coach before taken the reigns and it showed.
Not keeping Schmidt, and bashing Robertson’s ego in with a baseball bat and making him an assistant coach, was a complete fuck up. We could have had Schmidt, Robertson, and McMillan as a coaching team
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@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:
The issues with this team were obvious in the semi final loss against England in 2019 and they’re almost identical to what they are now.
I'd go back to the 2017 Lions.
Absolutely nothing has changed. Literally nothing
Except 3 coaching set-ups. Maybe just change the assistants this time.
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@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:
The issues with this team were obvious in the semi final loss against England in 2019 and they’re almost identical to what they are now. Absolutely nothing has changed. Literally nothing
I have become a parody of myself talking about that 2019 semi.
I cannot believe TJP, Reece, Beaudy, ALB, Rieko have managed to hang on for as long as they have.
I wanted them gone then!!!!
5 years ago!
We have gotten the captain selection wrong twice. It should have been Whitelock over Cane.
To be fair I cant say who it should be now, but it's not Scooter anyway. Probably Codie or Roigard (which is ridiculous really).Ardie should have been riding pine once or twice just to put some manners on him. The boy is a bit too big for his boots me thinks. He is trying to carve out an "Uncle Siya"-esque holier than thou friend to all type brand.
Id like to see him tackle someone. Preferably in a dominant fashion.
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@sparky said in England Vs All Blacks:
Highlights:
Watching that back, England's first three tries all came from really passive New Zealand tackling (Carter, Beauden Barrett, Tupaea, Scott Barrett and Beauden Barrett again).
England's last shouldn't have stood. Clear (and totally unnecessary) obstruction by Henry Pollock.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
@jimmyb said in England Vs All Blacks:
The issues with this team were obvious in the semi final loss against England in 2019 and they’re almost identical to what they are now.
I'd go back to the 2017 Lions.
Absolutely nothing has changed. Literally nothing
Except 3 coaching set-ups. Maybe just change the assistants this time.
SBW right shoulder test 2.
Ground zero.
