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    @Duluth said in England v All Blacks:

    @reprobate said in England v All Blacks:

    It's also really noticeable how poor LF's handling and ball security is. He is great ball in hand, but you' have to ask how many turnovers is he costing per game? Not that it matters when we're just going to kick it away badly anyway I suppose.

    The drop in quality from Clarke to LF was enormous

    Agree. I like his effort, but it is just way too many mistakes for an AB.

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    @reprobate that's an impressive exercise in self harm right there!

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    @canefan said in England v All Blacks:

    @reprobate that's an impressive exercise in self harm right there!

    Oh don't worry bro, I totally deserve it - and have become a bit less invested in it to be honest, until we see some meaningful change. It's interesting to go through it a bit more methodically and see whether the things that piss you off watching it live are actually accurate, and just how many times we are fucking certain things up.

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    @reprobate LF is holding the ball incorrectly. So when he’s hit in a tackle or goes to ground there’s a higher chance of it being hit out or spilling on impact. Nonu and Lauaki had similar issues early in their careers. Clarke had a bad patch of losing the ball when he first came on to the scene.

    Worth persisting with as a bench option if he tidies that up.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:

    @reprobate LF is holding the ball incorrectly. So when he’s hit in a tackle or goes to ground there’s a higher chance of it being hit out or spilling on impact. Nonu and Lauaki had similar issues early in their careers. Clarke had a bad patch of losing the ball when he first came on to the scene.

    Worth persisting with as a bench option if he tidies that up.

    Will he be better than Timoci in super rugby next year? They are sort of auditioning for one position

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    @canefan said in England v All Blacks:

    @ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:

    @reprobate LF is holding the ball incorrectly. So when he’s hit in a tackle or goes to ground there’s a higher chance of it being hit out or spilling on impact. Nonu and Lauaki had similar issues early in their careers. Clarke had a bad patch of losing the ball when he first came on to the scene.

    Worth persisting with as a bench option if he tidies that up.

    Will he be better than Timoci in super rugby next year? They are sort of auditioning for one position

    LF has shown more than Timoci this year in test rugby.

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    @KiwiMurph said in England v All Blacks:

    @canefan said in England v All Blacks:

    @ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:

    @reprobate LF is holding the ball incorrectly. So when he’s hit in a tackle or goes to ground there’s a higher chance of it being hit out or spilling on impact. Nonu and Lauaki had similar issues early in their careers. Clarke had a bad patch of losing the ball when he first came on to the scene.

    Worth persisting with as a bench option if he tidies that up.

    Will he be better than Timoci in super rugby next year? They are sort of auditioning for one position

    LF has shown more than Timoci this year in test rugby.

    Timoci's error rate in Tests is something Leicester should aspire to.

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    @antipodean said in England v All Blacks:

    @KiwiMurph said in England v All Blacks:

    @canefan said in England v All Blacks:

    @ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:

    @reprobate LF is holding the ball incorrectly. So when he’s hit in a tackle or goes to ground there’s a higher chance of it being hit out or spilling on impact. Nonu and Lauaki had similar issues early in their careers. Clarke had a bad patch of losing the ball when he first came on to the scene.

    Worth persisting with as a bench option if he tidies that up.

    Will he be better than Timoci in super rugby next year? They are sort of auditioning for one position

    LF has shown more than Timoci this year in test rugby.

    Timoci's error rate in Tests is something Leicester should aspire to.

    I thought he was okay until his run was cut short by injury

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    @KiwiMurph To be fair to TT, he got two bench appearances against France. Very conceivable he causes Scotland all sorts of problems.

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    @sparky said in England v All Blacks:

    @ploughboy Steve Devine has said the same thing:

    Colin Newboult  /  Nov 16  /  Internationals

    Pressure mounting on Scott Robertson with coaches 'not all on the same page', says ex-All Black

    Pressure mounting on Scott Robertson with coaches 'not all on the same page', says ex-All Black

    Steve Devine believes the All Blacks' “structured” attack is stifling Scott Robertson's side as the pressure increases on the head coach.

    Razor is the head coach, surely he just needs to lay down the law to the other coaches.

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    What, on earth, were the All Blacks doing here? Baffling.

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    No men, no brain, no men no cry... they lack a leader in that backline. All are individual players who think about their stat.

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    @canefan said in England v All Blacks:

    @ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:

    @reprobate LF is holding the ball incorrectly. So when he’s hit in a tackle or goes to ground there’s a higher chance of it being hit out or spilling on impact. Nonu and Lauaki had similar issues early in should careers. Clarke had a bad patch of losing the ball when he first came on to the scene.

    Worth persisting with as a bench option if he tidies that up.

    Will he be better than Timoci in super rugby next year? They are sort of auditioning for one position

    Given how this season has gone I’d say everyone should be auditioning for next year selection

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    @ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:

    @canefan said in England v All Blacks:

    @ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:

    @reprobate LF is holding the ball incorrectly. So when he’s hit in a tackle or goes to ground there’s a higher chance of it being hit out or spilling on impact. Nonu and Lauaki had similar issues early in should careers. Clarke had a bad patch of losing the ball when he first came on to the scene.

    Worth persisting with as a bench option if he tidies that up.

    Will he be better than Timoci in super rugby next year? They are sort of auditioning for one position

    Given how this season has gone I’d say everyone should be auditioning for next year selection

    Starting with Razor....

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    @pourfasse said in England v All Blacks:

    No men, no brain, no men no cry... they lack a leader in that backline. All are individual players who think about their stat.

    I’m all for a bit scathing hyper-bowl but this isn’t basketball or cricket. I doubt any of them are seriously thinking about their stats.

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    @ACT-Crusader Look how Jordan is playing. He only thinks about doing meters and scoring tries. He was often waiting around the rucks. He did nothing. His tackles are soft.

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    @pourfasse They canned the defensive leader, Ioane, for a guy who was a complete dud in the SR playoffs in the past two seasons (Proctor). Low IQ coaches.

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    @pourfasse we often have one of our outside backs around the ruck in attack.
    We want him to carry because he actually makes metres when he does.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:

    @pourfasse we often have one of our outside backs around the ruck in attack.
    We want him to carry because he actually makes metres when he does.

    I don't know the stats. But it wouldn't surprise me if the backs make more metres than the forwards

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    @ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:

    @pourfasse we often have one of our outside backs around the ruck in attack.
    We want him to carry because he actually makes metres when he does.

    Sounds good, except when he's doing it on defence too, without even opening his gob and just walking around a handful of metres behind it - that does smell to me a lot like "I'm awaiting a miracle turnover or ball bobbling out so I can get an eye catching run".

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