England v All Blacks
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@canefan said in England v All Blacks:
@reprobate that's an impressive exercise in self harm right there!
Oh don't worry bro, I totally deserve it - and have become a bit less invested in it to be honest, until we see some meaningful change. It's interesting to go through it a bit more methodically and see whether the things that piss you off watching it live are actually accurate, and just how many times we are fucking certain things up.
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@reprobate LF is holding the ball incorrectly. So when he’s hit in a tackle or goes to ground there’s a higher chance of it being hit out or spilling on impact. Nonu and Lauaki had similar issues early in their careers. Clarke had a bad patch of losing the ball when he first came on to the scene.
Worth persisting with as a bench option if he tidies that up.
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@ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:
@reprobate LF is holding the ball incorrectly. So when he’s hit in a tackle or goes to ground there’s a higher chance of it being hit out or spilling on impact. Nonu and Lauaki had similar issues early in their careers. Clarke had a bad patch of losing the ball when he first came on to the scene.
Worth persisting with as a bench option if he tidies that up.
Will he be better than Timoci in super rugby next year? They are sort of auditioning for one position
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@canefan said in England v All Blacks:
@ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:
@reprobate LF is holding the ball incorrectly. So when he’s hit in a tackle or goes to ground there’s a higher chance of it being hit out or spilling on impact. Nonu and Lauaki had similar issues early in their careers. Clarke had a bad patch of losing the ball when he first came on to the scene.
Worth persisting with as a bench option if he tidies that up.
Will he be better than Timoci in super rugby next year? They are sort of auditioning for one position
LF has shown more than Timoci this year in test rugby.
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@KiwiMurph said in England v All Blacks:
@canefan said in England v All Blacks:
@ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:
@reprobate LF is holding the ball incorrectly. So when he’s hit in a tackle or goes to ground there’s a higher chance of it being hit out or spilling on impact. Nonu and Lauaki had similar issues early in their careers. Clarke had a bad patch of losing the ball when he first came on to the scene.
Worth persisting with as a bench option if he tidies that up.
Will he be better than Timoci in super rugby next year? They are sort of auditioning for one position
LF has shown more than Timoci this year in test rugby.
Timoci's error rate in Tests is something Leicester should aspire to.
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@antipodean said in England v All Blacks:
@KiwiMurph said in England v All Blacks:
@canefan said in England v All Blacks:
@ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:
@reprobate LF is holding the ball incorrectly. So when he’s hit in a tackle or goes to ground there’s a higher chance of it being hit out or spilling on impact. Nonu and Lauaki had similar issues early in their careers. Clarke had a bad patch of losing the ball when he first came on to the scene.
Worth persisting with as a bench option if he tidies that up.
Will he be better than Timoci in super rugby next year? They are sort of auditioning for one position
LF has shown more than Timoci this year in test rugby.
Timoci's error rate in Tests is something Leicester should aspire to.
I thought he was okay until his run was cut short by injury
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@sparky said in England v All Blacks:
@ploughboy Steve Devine has said the same thing:
Pressure mounting on Scott Robertson with coaches 'not all on the same page', says ex-All Black
Steve Devine believes the All Blacks' “structured” attack is stifling Scott Robertson's side as the pressure increases on the head coach.
Razor is the head coach, surely he just needs to lay down the law to the other coaches.
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@canefan said in England v All Blacks:
@ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:
@reprobate LF is holding the ball incorrectly. So when he’s hit in a tackle or goes to ground there’s a higher chance of it being hit out or spilling on impact. Nonu and Lauaki had similar issues early in should careers. Clarke had a bad patch of losing the ball when he first came on to the scene.
Worth persisting with as a bench option if he tidies that up.
Will he be better than Timoci in super rugby next year? They are sort of auditioning for one position
Given how this season has gone I’d say everyone should be auditioning for next year selection
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@ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:
@canefan said in England v All Blacks:
@ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:
@reprobate LF is holding the ball incorrectly. So when he’s hit in a tackle or goes to ground there’s a higher chance of it being hit out or spilling on impact. Nonu and Lauaki had similar issues early in should careers. Clarke had a bad patch of losing the ball when he first came on to the scene.
Worth persisting with as a bench option if he tidies that up.
Will he be better than Timoci in super rugby next year? They are sort of auditioning for one position
Given how this season has gone I’d say everyone should be auditioning for next year selection
Starting with Razor....
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@pourfasse said in England v All Blacks:
No men, no brain, no men no cry... they lack a leader in that backline. All are individual players who think about their stat.
I’m all for a bit scathing hyper-bowl but this isn’t basketball or cricket. I doubt any of them are seriously thinking about their stats.
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@ACT-Crusader Look how Jordan is playing. He only thinks about doing meters and scoring tries. He was often waiting around the rucks. He did nothing. His tackles are soft.
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@pourfasse we often have one of our outside backs around the ruck in attack.
We want him to carry because he actually makes metres when he does. -
@ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:
@pourfasse we often have one of our outside backs around the ruck in attack.
We want him to carry because he actually makes metres when he does.I don't know the stats. But it wouldn't surprise me if the backs make more metres than the forwards
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@ACT-Crusader said in England v All Blacks:
@pourfasse we often have one of our outside backs around the ruck in attack.
We want him to carry because he actually makes metres when he does.Sounds good, except when he's doing it on defence too, without even opening his gob and just walking around a handful of metres behind it - that does smell to me a lot like "I'm awaiting a miracle turnover or ball bobbling out so I can get an eye catching run".
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think it was the Ben Youngs and Dan Cole podcast that suggested that England are playing better than the sum of their parts. They mentioned that if you picked a world XV today barely any Englishmen would make it in and I have to agree with the possible exception of Itoje / Underhill / Curry who would be there or there abouts. Some may become world class but almost none are.
With the ABs, I would say that the cattle are in a similar position, I don't think there are many that would make it into a world XV, but the coaching seems not to be making the best of them at the moment. The lack of direction and intensity on Saturday was something i can't remember seeing from the ABs, don't know if they're not drilled well enough (particularly in defence), or if they're not fit enough, or simply not understanding instructions. Playing 10 behind a pack going backwards in almost every contact (except the lineout) is always horrible and even the best players look can look awful. BB looks a bit lost at the moment
