All Blacks 2025
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Over to you Mr Kirk.
Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?
What do you expect Kirk to do?
To boldly go.....?
"It's life, Jim, but not as we know it."
“Insufficient facts always invite danger.”
“Sometimes a feeling is all we humans have to go on.”
“You know the greatest danger facing us is ourselves.”To stay on topic on what NZR/Kirk should do.....
"The obvious answer generally isn't, the wrong answer generally is"
"The best questions are the ones you are afraid to ask"
"Fix the future, fuck the past"
"The smartest bloke in the room isn't as smart as the two dumbest blokes working together"@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Over to you Mr Kirk.
Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?
What do you expect Kirk to do?
To boldly go.....?
"It's life, Jim, but not as we know it."
“Insufficient facts always invite danger.”
“Sometimes a feeling is all we humans have to go on.”
“You know the greatest danger facing us is ourselves.”To stay on topic on what NZR/Kirk should do.....
"The obvious answer generally isn't, the wrong answer generally is"
"The best questions are the ones you are afraid to ask"
"Fix the future, fuck the past"
"The smartest bloke in the room isn't as smart as the two dumbest blokes working together"True Dan, we should just continue on as is, because everyone up top knows better.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Over to you Mr Kirk.
Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?
What do you expect Kirk to do?
There needs to be some sort of political heave to oust Razor, whether he has the whip hand himself or not.
His assistants can go too.
Scooter should be stripped.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Over to you Mr Kirk.
Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?
What do you expect Kirk to do?
There needs to be some sort of political heave to oust Razor, whether he has the whip hand himself or not.
His assistants can go too.
Scooter should be stripped.
I not a Robertson fan etc, but no way is there any sense in removing him, just setting up next coach for failure. But as I said that not up to Kirk, it's up to board surely.
And even the captain (although not sure he should have job by any means, as I not convinced he in top 2 locks) , but it can only be coach that appoints captain. -
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Over to you Mr Kirk.
Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?
What do you expect Kirk to do?
To boldly go.....?
Seriously, ask the right questions and find out what the actual problems are - not what we think they are.
Let's not repeat the mistake of blaming it all on the coach - not that I'm defending the useless twat.
I agree with what you say, but genuinely he's not the NZR board, he's just the chairman. It's up to board to ask questions through the CEO. Remember what happened in Aus when the chairman thout he ran the whole game?
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Over to you Mr Kirk.
Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?
What do you expect Kirk to do?
To boldly go.....?
Seriously, ask the right questions and find out what the actual problems are - not what we think they are.
Let's not repeat the mistake of blaming it all on the coach - not that I'm defending the useless twat.
I agree with what you say, but genuinely he's not the NZR board, he's just the chairman. It's up to board to ask questions through the CEO. Remember what happened in Aus when the chairman thout he ran the whole game?
Kirk is probably in the driving seat right now. Not saying he'll take decisions on his own, but he's in a position to ask the right questions (starting to already) and seems smart enough to cut thru the snake oil and ensure he and the new CEO get the right answers
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Over to you Mr Kirk.
Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?
What do you expect Kirk to do?
There needs to be some sort of political heave to oust Razor, whether he has the whip hand himself or not.
His assistants can go too.
Scooter should be stripped.
I not a Robertson fan etc, but no way is there any sense in removing him, just setting up next coach for failure. But as I said that not up to Kirk, it's up to board surely.
And even the captain (although not sure he should have job by any means, as I not convinced he in top 2 locks) , but it can only be coach that appoints captain.@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Over to you Mr Kirk.
Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?
What do you expect Kirk to do?
There needs to be some sort of political heave to oust Razor, whether he has the whip hand himself or not.
His assistants can go too.
Scooter should be stripped.
I not a Robertson fan etc, but no way is there any sense in removing him, just setting up next coach for failure. But as I said that not up to Kirk, it's up to board surely.
And even the captain (although not sure he should have job by any means, as I not convinced he in top 2 locks) , but it can only be coach that appoints captain.I not a fucking newbie to the English language.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Negatives (these are going to be longer):
We got humped royally by the Boks.
We got humped royally by the Poms.
Argentina give us a bit of a kicking.
We weren't convincing once. Our best performance all year was Perth and was a 7/10.
We don't look like a side that will challenge at the next World Cup.
We didn't win the Rugby Chmapionship.
We didn't do the Grand Slam.
Our defence is appalling.
Our captain has minimal influence.
We've started an aging and poor First Five for most of the year.
We're terrible in the air.
Our attacking structure isn't great.
Our defensive structure is poor.
Our discipline is terrible.
Ardie Savea has become a one or two miracle plays a game player.
Cortes Ratima isn't up to it.
The Scott Parker experiment didn't work.
Nor did the Billy Proctor one.
We didn't develop a new First Five.
Ruben Love wasn't given enough gametime.
Our best 7, Dalton Papalii, has been out of the squad for most of the year.
We go missing for large parts of games.In a word, unsatisfactory.
It’s honestly like that guy never even played
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Over to you Mr Kirk.
Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?
What do you expect Kirk to do?
There needs to be some sort of political heave to oust Razor, whether he has the whip hand himself or not.
His assistants can go too.
Scooter should be stripped.
I not a Robertson fan etc, but no way is there any sense in removing him, just setting up next coach for failure. But as I said that not up to Kirk, it's up to board surely.
And even the captain (although not sure he should have job by any means, as I not convinced he in top 2 locks) , but it can only be coach that appoints captain.I not a fucking newbie to the English language.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Over to you Mr Kirk.
Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?
What do you expect Kirk to do?
There needs to be some sort of political heave to oust Razor, whether he has the whip hand himself or not.
His assistants can go too.
Scooter should be stripped.
I not a Robertson fan etc, but no way is there any sense in removing him, just setting up next coach for failure. But as I said that not up to Kirk, it's up to board surely.
And even the captain (although not sure he should have job by any means, as I not convinced he in top 2 locks) , but it can only be coach that appoints captain.I not a fucking newbie to the English language.
Really, and I supposed to be worried ?
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Over to you Mr Kirk.
Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?
What do you expect Kirk to do?
There needs to be some sort of political heave to oust Razor, whether he has the whip hand himself or not.
His assistants can go too.
Scooter should be stripped.
I not a Robertson fan etc, but no way is there any sense in removing him, just setting up next coach for failure. But as I said that not up to Kirk, it's up to board surely.
And even the captain (although not sure he should have job by any means, as I not convinced he in top 2 locks) , but it can only be coach that appoints captain.I not a fucking newbie to the English language.
Really, and I supposed to be worried ?
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Over to you Mr Kirk.
Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?
What do you expect Kirk to do?
There needs to be some sort of political heave to oust Razor, whether he has the whip hand himself or not.
His assistants can go too.
Scooter should be stripped.
I not a Robertson fan etc, but no way is there any sense in removing him, just setting up next coach for failure. But as I said that not up to Kirk, it's up to board surely.
And even the captain (although not sure he should have job by any means, as I not convinced he in top 2 locks) , but it can only be coach that appoints captain.I not a fucking newbie to the English language.
Really, and I supposed to be worried ?
I am wouldn't think so.
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@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Look, the point I’m making is there’s no way we’ll see Scott Parker in an AB jersey in 2026, I hope @Mr-Fish realises that
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Look, the point I’m making is there’s no way we’ll see Scott Parker in an AB jersey in 2026, I hope @Mr-Fish realises that
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Look, the point I’m making is there’s no way we’ll see Scott Parker in an AB jersey in 2026, I hope @Mr-Fish realises that
Brine.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Over to you Mr Kirk.
Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?
What do you expect Kirk to do?
There needs to be some sort of political heave to oust Razor, whether he has the whip hand himself or not.
His assistants can go too.
Scooter should be stripped.
I not a Robertson fan etc, but no way is there any sense in removing him, just setting up next coach for failure. But as I said that not up to Kirk, it's up to board surely.
And even the captain (although not sure he should have job by any means, as I not convinced he in top 2 locks) , but it can only be coach that appoints captain.I not a fucking newbie to the English language.
Really, and I supposed to be worried ?
I am wouldn't think so.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Over to you Mr Kirk.
Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?
What do you expect Kirk to do?
There needs to be some sort of political heave to oust Razor, whether he has the whip hand himself or not.
His assistants can go too.
Scooter should be stripped.
I not a Robertson fan etc, but no way is there any sense in removing him, just setting up next coach for failure. But as I said that not up to Kirk, it's up to board surely.
And even the captain (although not sure he should have job by any means, as I not convinced he in top 2 locks) , but it can only be coach that appoints captain.I not a fucking newbie to the English language.
Really, and I supposed to be worried ?
I am wouldn't think so.
To be honest Bones, I don't check anything I write as I never really get that worried about mistakes etc.
And I admit to getting a bit of amusement out of your schoolmarm panties twist when I do it.:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: -
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Look, the point I’m making is there’s no way we’ll see Scott Parker in an AB jersey in 2026, I hope @Mr-Fish realises that
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Look, the point I’m making is there’s no way we’ll see Scott Parker in an AB jersey in 2026, I hope @Mr-Fish realises that
Haha it's impossible to know who on here who is getting names wrong and who is taking the piss out of people getting names wrong...
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Look, the point I’m making is there’s no way we’ll see Scott Parker in an AB jersey in 2026, I hope @Mr-Fish realises that
Haha it's impossible to know who on here who is getting names wrong and who is taking the piss out of people getting names wrong...
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Look, the point I’m making is there’s no way we’ll see Scott Parker in an AB jersey in 2026, I hope @Mr-Fish realises that
Haha it's impossible to know who on here who is getting names wrong and who is taking the piss out of people getting names wrong...
I’m not sure Simon Barrett will be captain next year either
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Look, the point I’m making is there’s no way we’ll see Scott Parker in an AB jersey in 2026, I hope @Mr-Fish realises that
Haha it's impossible to know who on here who is getting names wrong and who is taking the piss out of people getting names wrong...
I’m not sure Simon Barrett will be captain next year either
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Parker was better today than Holland was, to be fair... You only notice Holland because he's jumping in lineouts.
You’ve really missed what I was saying
In what sense?
Cos Scott Parker never played. I think Simon Parker did though.
Next you'll be saying Reeves didn't score a try.
Aaron Leonard Brine got a farewell match too.
Don't be salty.
Look, the point I’m making is there’s no way we’ll see Scott Parker in an AB jersey in 2026, I hope @Mr-Fish realises that
Haha it's impossible to know who on here who is getting names wrong and who is taking the piss out of people getting names wrong...
I’m not sure Simon Barrett will be captain next year either
Nor Simon Barnett
