What new players would you like to see in all blacks next year

sparky

Hopefully, both Scott Barrett and Beauden Barrett will announce their retirements from international rugby over the summer.

Both great servants of the Black jersey, but they are both not offering enough now. Time for them to stand back and give younger guys a chance.

nostrildamus

@sparky said in What new players would you like to see in all blacks next year:

Both great servants of the Black jersey, but they are both not offering enough now. Time for them to stand back and give younger guys a chance.

I am obviously in the BB can go get a wonderfully padded retirement package but as a lock I don't mind Scott B. Down the pecking order at the moment but he might be coming back to some degree of solid, hardworking form. Just not captain, and has to consistently deserve his position, like all of them. I don't think they should have played him while his leg was healing either. I hope one of their flaws isn't playing their favourites until they break then rushing to the promising but untried alternatives in a lastminute panic.

sparky

@nostrildamus We're looking good in locking department. I'm not sure Scott Barrett is in our top six anymore.

canefan

@nostrildamus said in What new players would you like to see in all blacks next year:

@sparky said in What new players would you like to see in all blacks next year:

Both great servants of the Black jersey, but they are both not offering enough now. Time for them to stand back and give younger guys a chance.

I am obviously in the BB can go get a wonderfully padded retirement package but as a lock I don't mind Scott B. Down the pecking order at the moment but he might be coming back to some degree of solid, hardworking form. Just not captain, and has to consistently deserve his position, like all of them. I don't think they should have played him while his leg was healing either. I hope one of their flaws isn't playing their favourites until they break then rushing to the promising but untried alternatives in a lastminute panic.

Definitely one of their fatal flaws!

nostrildamus

@sparky said in What new players would you like to see in all blacks next year:

@nostrildamus We're looking good in locking department. I'm not sure Scott Barrett is in our top six anymore.

Wow! That's a big fall from grace! Do you have an idea of how the locks now/could rank? I was thinking he could be around 3rd or 4th, I can imagine 5th but 6th? I suspect the coaches see him as a bolt-on starter when fit.

cgrant

Is Higgins the new Charlie Ngatai ? First, let's see if he can play regularly next year for the Canes before making him an All Black.

Bones

Blackdragon is back baby.

Tim

@Bones said in What new players would you like to see in all blacks next year:

Blackdragon is back baby.

Exactly what I was thinking.

sparky

@cgrant Riley Higgins is the Riley Higgins.

hikastags

@antipodean said in What new players would you like to see in all blacks next year:

@S3L3CTOR said in What new players would you like to see in all blacks next year:

@antipodean He was pretty good in the Top 14.

Statistically he was one of, if not the worst centers defensively.

If he was so shit he wouldn't of been a finalist for Top14 midfielder of the year.

hikastags

Cam Christie for the #6 jersey.

family man

@hikastags said in What new players would you like to see in all blacks next year:

Cam Christie for the #6 jersey.

Not seen much of him tbh.

Bovidae

I'd like to see ENS at fullback, and hope he plays there for the Chiefs. That big left boot is a weapon on exits.

taniwharugby

@Bovidae JRK, ENS, Love, Dmac and WJ at FB,
Tangitau, WJ, Narawa & Carter at 14
LF & CC at 11

def some good options.

Assuming Rieko plays mid-field in the NH, hopefully he comes back a more polished player, as Jordie did (initially) providing another option there too.

edited to add options

reprobate

@hikastags said in What new players would you like to see in all blacks next year:

@antipodean said in What new players would you like to see in all blacks next year:

@S3L3CTOR said in What new players would you like to see in all blacks next year:

@antipodean He was pretty good in the Top 14.

Statistically he was one of, if not the worst centers defensively.

If he was so shit he wouldn't of been a finalist for Top14 midfielder of the year.

His defence is not good. His ball security is not good. Work rate is good, and ball in hand he's really fucking good.

Bovidae

@taniwharugby I'd select Narawa over Carter myself.

taniwharugby

@Bovidae shoot, forgot about him! Absolutely, add him to the list too.

Dmac & Love to add to FB options.

Just need to sort getting the ball out to them, without the defence at the same time

Victor Meldrew

@Bones said in What new players would you like to see in all blacks next year:

Blackdragon is back baby.

Woosh.

reprobate

@S3L3CTOR said in What new players would you like to see in all blacks next year:

Chay Fihaki (huge boot)

Notes:

No Beauden, bc he has an incomplete skillset for 10 (not a goalkicker; poor tactical kicker; not a great passer)

I like to think I'm an outside chance for broken record for my consistent railing against BB, but Fihaki is a loooong way outside the box.
I'd say he is considerably worse than BB in all the aspects that you are criticising BB for, and given he doesn't actually know how to play there I'd say that incomplete skillset is a given.

Kirwan

LF makes way too many mistakes to be in the All Blacks. Scrapes in on the wing maybe, but there are better options there too.

Misses tackles, awful ball security, the wingers just wouldn't get the ball - which apparantly is RI's big problem yet look how quick the wingers got the ball in the weekend.

The Silver Fern

What new players would you like to see in all blacks next year