All Blacks 2025
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
Going into 2025 there were some optimists that thought after 12 months in the set up to lay the foundations Razor and co would be more daring and innovative in year 2
Then we end up in 2025 scoring 1 counter attacking try all season and an End Of Year Tour where not one single player debuted for the ABs.....
Literally no discernible progress and Razor is gaslighting the fans.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
Literally no discernible progress and Razor is gaslighting the fans.
“Gotta keep the faith.”
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@DurryMexted said in All Blacks 2025:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby What, exactly, would Razor be doing to turn it around in your scenario?
Let’s start from the back
Love, Jordan, Clarke
Can Jordan & Clarke defy the 27 club curse and be valid options at Wing for the next 2 years?
As an aside.......People are calling for Nanai Seturo who turns 27 next August.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@DurryMexted said in All Blacks 2025:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby What, exactly, would Razor be doing to turn it around in your scenario?
Let’s start from the back
Love, Jordan, Clarke
Can Jordan & Clarke defy the 27 club curse and be valid options at Wing for the next 2 years?
As an aside.......People are calling for Nanai Seturo who turns 27 next August.
Difference being, he hasn't been playing international rugby since he was 19. Cory Jane was what, 25?
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
WTF?! That word salad was completely incomprehensible.
@junior said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
WTF?! That word salad was completely incomprehensible.
He said a lot of things without even once mentioning coaching the team. Is he even a coach?
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@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Imagine listening to him and Hansen for a season.....
Much prefer Rsssie's "that performance was dogshit" messaging.
Clear, concise, and you know you are getting beasted at training and/or dropped next week.
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
The Herald has spoken to several high-profile Kiwi coaches based overseas, who say that while they love their country and want teams in black to win on the world stage, they have no interest in coming home because they don’t believe the high-performance system is operating at best-practice levels, and they don’t trust NZR to consistently make good decisions around coaching and management appointments.
Some coaches have said they fear NZR has become dismissive of what it could learn and borrow from other countries and that it has shut itself off entirely from the rest of the world, which is partly why they say the All Blacks’ defensive and attacking patterns are outdated and ineffective.
Thats a grim, deflating read.
We are in trouble folks.
Big trouble. We have Scott Hansen coaching the side with Razor doing the pilates side of things and have to tour the republic for 4 fucken tests next year!
One thing that really annoyed me about the 3 part Razor wankfest run by Jim Kayes was when he was extremely dismissive about getting experience overseas and said something along the lines of 'Why do i need overseas experience? I spent time over there as a player!' He lost me right there. Did he think he'd walk into international rugby thinking the opposition was the same level as the Waratahs and Force or something?
I really think we make too much of saying you need international experience.
Sure test rugby is different but its still rugby. The laws are the same, the quality increases but who shouldnt be shocked at test rugby is different than super rugby
Funnily enough Grubs, one Sam Whitelock said he thought the assistant coaches weren't experienced enough at test level rugby in his book. I also remember Ryan saying when the Crusaders had a really tough game coming up and he made comment it will be test match intensity, Whitelock told him he was talking bullshit, no comparison he said. Not sure if Sam had enough experience to know?:winking_face:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
The Herald has spoken to several high-profile Kiwi coaches based overseas, who say that while they love their country and want teams in black to win on the world stage, they have no interest in coming home because they don’t believe the high-performance system is operating at best-practice levels, and they don’t trust NZR to consistently make good decisions around coaching and management appointments.
Some coaches have said they fear NZR has become dismissive of what it could learn and borrow from other countries and that it has shut itself off entirely from the rest of the world, which is partly why they say the All Blacks’ defensive and attacking patterns are outdated and ineffective.
Thats a grim, deflating read.
We are in trouble folks.
Big trouble. We have Scott Hansen coaching the side with Razor doing the pilates side of things and have to tour the republic for 4 fucken tests next year!
One thing that really annoyed me about the 3 part Razor wankfest run by Jim Kayes was when he was extremely dismissive about getting experience overseas and said something along the lines of 'Why do i need overseas experience? I spent time over there as a player!' He lost me right there. Did he think he'd walk into international rugby thinking the opposition was the same level as the Waratahs and Force or something?
I really think we make too much of saying you need international experience.
Sure test rugby is different but its still rugby. The laws are the same, the quality increases but who shouldnt be shocked at test rugby is different than super rugby
Funnily enough Grubs, one Sam Whitelock said he thought the assistant coaches weren't experienced enough at test level rugby in his book. I also remember Ryan saying when the Crusaders had a really tough game coming up and he made comment it will be test match intensity, Whitelock told him he was talking bullshit, no comparison he said. Not sure if Sam had enough experience to know?:winking_face:
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@junior said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
WTF?! That word salad was completely incomprehensible.
He said a lot of things without even once mentioning coaching the team. Is he even a coach?
@akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:
@junior said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
WTF?! That word salad was completely incomprehensible.
He said a lot of things without even once mentioning coaching the team. Is he even a coach?
No, it appears we've been had. He's the feels guy. Kirk should read that and pull the trigger without hesitation
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Imagine listening to him and Hansen for a season.....
Much prefer Rsssie's "that performance was dogshit" messaging.
Clear, concise, and you know you are getting beasted at training and/or dropped next week.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Imagine listening to him and Hansen for a season.....
Think of what the squad must have sat thru....
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@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Not a pop at Coach Jesus, but am I the only one who hates the use of the word "boys"?
They're not boys, they're grown fucking men.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Not a pop at Coach Jesus, but am I the only one who hates the use of the word "boys"?
They're not boys, they're grown fucking men.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Not a pop at Coach Jesus, but am I the only one who hates the use of the word "boys"?
They're not boys, they're grown fucking men.
There's a lot of stuff said by coaches, players and the especially media that comes across as too casual and matey, matey for me.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Not a pop at Coach Jesus, but am I the only one who hates the use of the word "boys"?
They're not boys, they're grown fucking men.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Not a pop at Coach Jesus, but am I the only one who hates the use of the word "boys"?
They're not boys, they're grown fucking men.
They play like boys.
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Watching the opening of Aotearoa Rugby Pod is a joke. Parsons reckons we've been dominant on defence all year until we let it slide vs Wales and England. I guess he didn't watch us vs SA in Wellington, and the stats on The Breakdown.
@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks:
Watching the opening of Aotearoa Rugby Pod is a joke. Parsons reckons we've been dominant on defence all year until we let it slide vs Wales and England. I guess he didn't watch us vs SA in Wellington, and the stats on The Breakdown.
He's a mouthpiece for the players and is being told what to say by NZ Rugby.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Not a pop at Coach Jesus, but am I the only one who hates the use of the word "boys"?
They're not boys, they're grown fucking men.
There's a lot of stuff said by coaches, players and the especially media that comes across as too casual and matey, matey for me.
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Not a pop at Coach Jesus, but am I the only one who hates the use of the word "boys"?
They're not boys, they're grown fucking men.
There's a lot of stuff said by coaches, players and the especially media that comes across as too casual and matey, matey for me.
No edge to the organisation from top down.
We have a no dickheads policy.....we actually need a few dickheads in the building and on the pitch.
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@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Not a pop at Coach Jesus, but am I the only one who hates the use of the word "boys"?
They're not boys, they're grown fucking men.
There's a lot of stuff said by coaches, players and the especially media that comes across as too casual and matey, matey for me.
No edge to the organisation from top down.
We have a no dickheads policy.....we actually need a few dickheads in the building and on the pitch.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Not a pop at Coach Jesus, but am I the only one who hates the use of the word "boys"?
They're not boys, they're grown fucking men.
There's a lot of stuff said by coaches, players and the especially media that comes across as too casual and matey, matey for me.
No edge to the organisation from top down.
We have a no dickheads policy.....we actually need a few dickheads in the building and on the pitch.
Nobody needs a dickhead mate. What we need is hard professional people who don't back away from tough decisions.
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@akan004 from that same article; "Personally, yeah, being in 32 hotels and going around the world a few times, but I think what’s required of me every week, how do I set the group up, the management group, the team, we talk about being all in, we talk about serving our jersey on the field and our people off the field, so how can I shape and bring the legacy along with us.
“I feel like I’ve made a real connection to that piece and personally, how can I get those simple messages across to the group? Look, I said before, it’s fine margins, and there’s a lot of expectations that come with it. So how can you refine your messages so the boys are clear and then just go and play and trust themselves.
“I feel like I’ve got a lot better in that regard.”
He's fucking delusional.
Not a pop at Coach Jesus, but am I the only one who hates the use of the word "boys"?
They're not boys, they're grown fucking men.
There's a lot of stuff said by coaches, players and the especially media that comes across as too casual and matey, matey for me.
No edge to the organisation from top down.
We have a no dickheads policy.....we actually need a few dickheads in the building and on the pitch.
Nobody needs a dickhead mate. What we need is hard professional people who don't back away from tough decisions.
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
tough decisions.
these days that can be construed as 'asshole' by some people
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@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks:
Watching the opening of Aotearoa Rugby Pod is a joke. Parsons reckons we've been dominant on defence all year until we let it slide vs Wales and England. I guess he didn't watch us vs SA in Wellington, and the stats on The Breakdown.
He's a mouthpiece for the players and is being told what to say by NZ Rugby.
@African-Monkey said in Wales v All Blacks:
@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks:
Watching the opening of Aotearoa Rugby Pod is a joke. Parsons reckons we've been dominant on defence all year until we let it slide vs Wales and England. I guess he didn't watch us vs SA in Wellington, and the stats on The Breakdown.
He's a mouthpiece for the players and is being told what to say by NZ Rugby.
I used to like the show, but the last two weeks have been nothing short of embarassing. So I'm out
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@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
tough decisions.
these days that can be construed as 'asshole' by some people
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
tough decisions.
these days that can be construed as 'asshole' by some people
I don't think these days has got much to do with that to be honest bro, tough decisions have forever often been tough precisely because some people won't like them.
Also is an arsehole a dickhead? Not necessarily I reckon. -
Aotearoa Rugby Pod are interesting when they are talking about other countries and what they are doing.
I find them an absolute waste of time when talking about NZ rugby/ABs.
@KiwiMurph thats the thing, Parsons has a very analytical eye when it comes to rugby, when he was playing they had him on the radio in a regular spot talking and he was always very insightful, similar to O'Halloran.
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