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    Rembrandt
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    Probably my favourite kiwi athlete at the moment
    https://twitter.com/mmhmmMMA/status/1990834087662125287?s=20

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      I see Kai Kara-France is taking a year off. He's still contracted to UFC and has fights on his contract.

      Seems similar to Brad Riddell who also took a break while still under contract.. 3 years later and I assume that became a retirement

      The path to the belt looks difficult for KKF, maybe that improves in the next year? Cynics will note that he's dropping out of the testing pool.

      I hope it's not related to the bad concussion he had a while ago

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        I see Kai Kara-France is taking a year off. He's still contracted to UFC and has fights on his contract.

        Seems similar to Brad Riddell who also took a break while still under contract.. 3 years later and I assume that became a retirement

        The path to the belt looks difficult for KKF, maybe that improves in the next year? Cynics will note that he's dropping out of the testing pool.

        I hope it's not related to the bad concussion he had a while ago

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        @Duluth Kinda weird how he or the UFC didn't announce it before hand. Everyone suddenly just saw the flyweight rankings shift massively despite no fights. All sorts of rumours were flying.

        Glad he is still about but yeah very tough spot for title aspirations, will be interesting where he moves to in rankings on return, plenty of fighters go for over a year without fights anyway and remain in rankings. Hell you get fighters moving up the rankings regularly without even fighting (Pimblett #8 to #5) for example

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          Probably my favourite kiwi athlete at the moment
          https://twitter.com/mmhmmMMA/status/1990834087662125287?s=20

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          @Rembrandt said in UFC / MMA:

          Probably my favourite kiwi athlete at the moment

          Yup easily my favourite active NZ sportsman

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            Would be so awesome if he can get the upset. 3 fight win streak ...over 3 years...just a cool down-to-earth dude, breath of freshair compared to some of these guys who are trying to be someone they aren't and come across cringey as all hell

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              Bit of a shame with the result, he was talking abit about using 'offensive grappling' as opposed to the defensive grappling he used against Gamrot..just not a good idea with someone at Arman's level. Good to see Arman giving him his flowers for fighting, was a real life-line to Arman's title chances.
              https://x.com/RedCorner_MMA/status/1992365161064329322

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                MiketheSnow
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                Great evening of MMA

                Some fabulous finishes

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                  Classic

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                        A shame the Hooker fight went as expected. It’s easy to be wise after the fact, but going for a couple of guillotine attempts didn’t seem like the best tactic. Arman’s striking looked very slick too especially in the first round

                        Volk v Lopes II is underwhelming

                        Either the UFC really wants the marketable Lopes to be champ or the other contenders didn’t want to travel to Aussie. Both reasons aren’t great

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                          Weird matchups alright. Would love to know what is going on behind the scenes. No guarantee Lopes will win..so a loss then volks retirement surely wont see Lopes fight for the title a 3rd time. Cant imagine other contenders refusing a title shot either, doesnt make sense.

                          Also mental having interim lightweight fight between #4 and #8 ranked fighters (I know Pimblett is 'officially' #5 but they've been pushing him up the rankings from #8 without fighting.

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                            Weird matchups alright. Would love to know what is going on behind the scenes. No guarantee Lopes will win..so a loss then volks retirement surely wont see Lopes fight for the title a 3rd time. Cant imagine other contenders refusing a title shot either, doesnt make sense.

                            Also mental having interim lightweight fight between #4 and #8 ranked fighters (I know Pimblett is 'officially' #5 but they've been pushing him up the rankings from #8 without fighting.

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                            @Rembrandt said in UFC / MMA:

                            I know Pimblett is 'officially' #5 but they've been pushing him up the rankings from #8 without fighting.

                            I don't have a problem with his ranking. He looked very good in April. He's moved because people ahead of him deserved to drop places after recent losses (Gamrot, Dariush etc)

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                              @Rembrandt said in UFC / MMA:

                              I know Pimblett is 'officially' #5 but they've been pushing him up the rankings from #8 without fighting.

                              I don't have a problem with his ranking. He looked very good in April. He's moved because people ahead of him deserved to drop places after recent losses (Gamrot, Dariush etc)

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                              @Duluth said in UFC / MMA:

                              @Rembrandt said in UFC / MMA:

                              I know Pimblett is 'officially' #5 but they've been pushing him up the rankings from #8 without fighting.

                              I don't have a problem with his ranking. He looked very good in April. He's moved because people ahead of him deserved to drop places after recent losses (Gamrot, Dariush etc)

                              Did he move up before or after those fights? I know he jumped Hooker before hookers fight which suggested he was getting the title shot before the announcement.

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                                @Duluth said in UFC / MMA:

                                @Rembrandt said in UFC / MMA:

                                I know Pimblett is 'officially' #5 but they've been pushing him up the rankings from #8 without fighting.

                                I don't have a problem with his ranking. He looked very good in April. He's moved because people ahead of him deserved to drop places after recent losses (Gamrot, Dariush etc)

                                Did he move up before or after those fights? I know he jumped Hooker before hookers fight which suggested he was getting the title shot before the announcement.

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                                @Rembrandt said in UFC / MMA:

                                Did he move up before or after those fights?

                                Yup he moved up a few times. Rankings are subjective but I disagree with the criticism that Paddy is getting for a few reasons

                                The idea that moving up without fighting is unusual (people move down). The claim that he's been inactive, he just fought in April. The claim that he 'only' beat Chandler from a bunch of people who picked Chandler to beat Paddy (I also picked Chandler)

                                The basic reasons for the movement is he had an impressive win while the fighters around him have been mixed

                                He has a 7-0 record in the UFC (5 performance of the night bonuses). Yes only the two most recent fights are against quality opposition

                                The fighters below him? What are their win streaks: 0, 0, 3, 1, 0

                                Personally I would have BSD and Fiziev a little higher than where they are but I don' think they demand a chance to step up before Pimblett

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                                  @Rembrandt said in UFC / MMA:

                                  Did he move up before or after those fights?

                                  Yup he moved up a few times. Rankings are subjective but I disagree with the criticism that Paddy is getting for a few reasons

                                  The idea that moving up without fighting is unusual (people move down). The claim that he's been inactive, he just fought in April. The claim that he 'only' beat Chandler from a bunch of people who picked Chandler to beat Paddy (I also picked Chandler)

                                  The basic reasons for the movement is he had an impressive win while the fighters around him have been mixed

                                  He has a 7-0 record in the UFC (5 performance of the night bonuses). Yes only the two most recent fights are against quality opposition

                                  The fighters below him? What are their win streaks: 0, 0, 3, 1, 0

                                  Personally I would have BSD and Fiziev a little higher than where they are but I don' think they demand a chance to step up before Pimblett

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                                  @Duluth Actually don't mind where he is in the rankings now just the way he got there, if he'd moved up after the others dropped fights it would be more palatable. Arman not being involved in the interim title does seem like bs but Paddy has some good points on that which is hard to disagree with.

                                  “On his way out of the cage, he punched a fan. Got banned.

                                  *“UFC probably had to pay a huge f—ing fee for the fella not to sue them. He then got his title shot and ‘oh I’ve got a bad back’ he f—ing got beat by back pain when really he probably just couldn’t make weight.

                                  “Sits out for f—ing 11 months, got offered a fight against Gamrot and says no. If I got offered a fight against someone who has beaten me, I’d be taking that fight immediately. Then fights Dan Hooker, headbutts him at the weigh in, nearly ruined another main event.

                                  “You can understand why he’s not in that position and as much as I like Dan Hooker, he’s sound – he’s s—. He can’t grapple to save his life, he can’t grapple if his mam’s life depended on it. If I had that guillotine on Arman, he’s going unconscious. If Dan Hooker is nearly guillotining you, you’re s— at jits.”*

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                                    Rembrandt
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                                    Who have we all got for 323?

                                    Santos
                                    ABdul-Malik
                                    Aslan
                                    Barboza
                                    Vettori
                                    Ziam
                                    Silva
                                    Duncan
                                    Torres
                                    Blachowicz
                                    Talbott
                                    Pantoja
                                    Dvalishvili

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                                      MiketheSnow
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                                      Santos
                                      Abdul-Malik
                                      Baraniewski
                                      Turner
                                      Ferreira
                                      Sadykhov
                                      Barber
                                      McKinney
                                      Dawson
                                      Guskov
                                      Cejudo
                                      Moreno
                                      Pantoja
                                      Dvalishvili

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                                        Rembrandt
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                                        Jainlin Turner's return is a weird one, his retirement interview with Ariel Helwani was quite moving a few months back. The dude couldn't deal with hurting guys. Seeing Dan Hooker in hospital triggered something and prevented him from finishing Moicano when he dropped him hard before eventually losing to a submission. Admittedly I haven't seen his followup interview on his return but surely if you don't have that killer instinct surely you're in the wrong business.

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                                          Love this sport. The drama, the sportsmanship, the unpredictability. Some absolute banger events coming up.

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