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  • Victor MeldrewV Online
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    #247

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @mohikamo said in All Blacks 2026:

    The thing is, I think the people that hired him knew exactly what they were getting.

    A marketing man's dream?

    The problem I have with this argument is that he's absolutely not. He's barely coherent in an interview.

    Does bloody great PowerPoint presentations though, apparently.

    It's pretty obvious why he'd be picked: absolutely excellent Super rugby coaching results. I don't think it is valid to say that marketing had become more important than results to NZR and that's why he got the job - he had the bloody results, that was literally the strongest argument in his favour.

    It's the powerpoint presentations which should have countered that - and that's on the people doing the hiring. Every time he opens his mouth seems like a red flag to me.

    Nah. The people who hired him wanted someone who looked like a winner at international level - plus he was fresh and "different". They knew he was untested at international level but that was an inconvenience to be ignored.

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    @mohikamo said in All Blacks 2026:

    @handa457 said in All Blacks 2026:

    can you elaborate on the Papalii turning down a Black Jersey story? First I'm hearing of it.

    The rumour is that Papalii was asked to train with the AB squad, while with the ABXV squad in England at the end of the year . . . and said no thanks, I'm staying with the ABXV squad.

    Dalton Papalii has a bloody good book in the making.....or at least a nice long stuff article.

    Judging by how unbalanced the loosies have been this year his "snubbing" makes Akira Ioane and Hoskins Sotutu look like sensible omissions.

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    replied to Victor Meldrew last edited by
    #249

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @mohikamo said in All Blacks 2026:

    The thing is, I think the people that hired him knew exactly what they were getting.

    A marketing man's dream?

    The problem I have with this argument is that he's absolutely not. He's barely coherent in an interview.

    Does bloody great PowerPoint presentations though, apparently.

    It's pretty obvious why he'd be picked: absolutely excellent Super rugby coaching results. I don't think it is valid to say that marketing had become more important than results to NZR and that's why he got the job - he had the bloody results, that was literally the strongest argument in his favour.

    It's the powerpoint presentations which should have countered that - and that's on the people doing the hiring. Every time he opens his mouth seems like a red flag to me.

    Nah. The people who hired him wanted someone who looked like a winner at international level - plus he was fresh and "different". They knew he was untested at international level but that was an inconvenience to be ignored.

    There simply are not going to be candidates who are tested and a proven success at tier one international level on any sort of regular basis.

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    Yes otherwise your only candidates are Rassie Erasmus and Steve Hansen.

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    replied to Victor Meldrew last edited by kiwiinmelb
    #251

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @mohikamo said in All Blacks 2026:

    The thing is, I think the people that hired him knew exactly what they were getting.

    A marketing man's dream?

    The problem I have with this argument is that he's absolutely not. He's barely coherent in an interview.

    Does bloody great PowerPoint presentations though, apparently.

    It's pretty obvious why he'd be picked: absolutely excellent Super rugby coaching results. I don't think it is valid to say that marketing had become more important than results to NZR and that's why he got the job - he had the bloody results, that was literally the strongest argument in his favour.

    It's the powerpoint presentations which should have countered that - and that's on the people doing the hiring. Every time he opens his mouth seems like a red flag to me.

    Nah. The people who hired him wanted someone who looked like a winner at international level - plus he was fresh and "different". They knew he was untested at international level but that was an inconvenience to be ignored.

    I also think there was an element of trying to keep the fans onside and being worried about the public reaction if they didn’t install him as coach and let him coach another international team .

    He was the popular choice by a long way by the masses and everyone was very vocal about it ,

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    He assumed the job with massive goodwill from everyone except Foster, Hansen and their compadres and the bad will they had built up from 2017 to 2024 invalidated their negativity.

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    I think there has been a moving of the goalposts here.people were calling for Robertson to head over seas after he missed out to foster to get overseas experience not international experience. get out of a bubble and coach elsewhere.

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    replied to kiwiinmelb last edited by
    #254

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @mohikamo said in All Blacks 2026:

    The thing is, I think the people that hired him knew exactly what they were getting.

    A marketing man's dream?

    The problem I have with this argument is that he's absolutely not. He's barely coherent in an interview.

    Does bloody great PowerPoint presentations though, apparently.

    It's pretty obvious why he'd be picked: absolutely excellent Super rugby coaching results. I don't think it is valid to say that marketing had become more important than results to NZR and that's why he got the job - he had the bloody results, that was literally the strongest argument in his favour.

    It's the powerpoint presentations which should have countered that - and that's on the people doing the hiring. Every time he opens his mouth seems like a red flag to me.

    Nah. The people who hired him wanted someone who looked like a winner at international level - plus he was fresh and "different". They knew he was untested at international level but that was an inconvenience to be ignored.

    I also think there was an element of trying to keep the fans onside and being worried about the public reaction if they didn’t install him as coach and let him coach another international team .

    He was the popular choice by a long way by the masses and everyone was very vocal about it ,

    Definitely this. There's a reason why you don't listen to the public.

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    @African-Monkey

    I wasn't really paying attention at the time.
    100% knew we needed a change in direction.
    Robertson seemed the logical choice, next cab off the rank.
    But if I had known then, that he was a huggy f'n "culture" coach, i'd have said no f'n way.
    Had some faith that the people who were making the appointment knew what they were doin.
    Seems like they were making an f'ing marketing move!
    Those guys should be f'd off.
    Not impressed by any of the black team coaches rn.

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    Old Alleynians
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    @Victor-Meldrew
    Maybe it's more nuanced - there is an issue - they understand that and perhaps a go again with a diff staff gives them more longevity.

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    @Victor-Meldrew

    But you couldn't have imagined Foster (assuming he did it all) doing this 2 yeara in to his reign?

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    @reprobate
    Soz - my belated point.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Online
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    Victor Meldrew
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    #259

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @mohikamo said in All Blacks 2026:

    The thing is, I think the people that hired him knew exactly what they were getting.

    A marketing man's dream?

    The problem I have with this argument is that he's absolutely not. He's barely coherent in an interview.

    Does bloody great PowerPoint presentations though, apparently.

    It's pretty obvious why he'd be picked: absolutely excellent Super rugby coaching results. I don't think it is valid to say that marketing had become more important than results to NZR and that's why he got the job - he had the bloody results, that was literally the strongest argument in his favour.

    It's the powerpoint presentations which should have countered that - and that's on the people doing the hiring. Every time he opens his mouth seems like a red flag to me.

    Nah. The people who hired him wanted someone who looked like a winner at international level - plus he was fresh and "different". They knew he was untested at international level but that was an inconvenience to be ignored.

    There simply are not going to be candidates who are tested and a proven success at tier one international level on any sort of regular basis.

    Tony Brown, Jamie Joseph, Joe Schmidt and Dave Rennie say "Hi"

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  • Victor MeldrewV Online
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    Victor Meldrew
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    @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2026:

    I think there has been a moving of the goalposts here.people were calling for Robertson to head over seas after he missed out to foster to get overseas experience not international experience. get out of a bubble and coach elsewhere.

    The big picture is NZR didn't have a strategy to develop and coaching talent at the highest level. Quite the opposite in that they seemingly burned bridges with a lot of good coaches

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    antipodean
    replied to kiwiinmelb last edited by
    #261

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @mohikamo said in All Blacks 2026:

    The thing is, I think the people that hired him knew exactly what they were getting.

    A marketing man's dream?

    The problem I have with this argument is that he's absolutely not. He's barely coherent in an interview.

    Does bloody great PowerPoint presentations though, apparently.

    It's pretty obvious why he'd be picked: absolutely excellent Super rugby coaching results. I don't think it is valid to say that marketing had become more important than results to NZR and that's why he got the job - he had the bloody results, that was literally the strongest argument in his favour.

    It's the powerpoint presentations which should have countered that - and that's on the people doing the hiring. Every time he opens his mouth seems like a red flag to me.

    Nah. The people who hired him wanted someone who looked like a winner at international level - plus he was fresh and "different". They knew he was untested at international level but that was an inconvenience to be ignored.

    I also think there was an element of trying to keep the fans onside and being worried about the public reaction if they didn’t install him as coach and let him coach another international team .

    He was the popular choice by a long way by the masses and everyone was very vocal about it ,

    Placating the hordes is exactly what a high performance unit would do.

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    Speaking of placating the hordes, normally the ABs losing enrages the hordes. But it might be a sign of how far we've sunk that average fans seem accepting of it all

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  • Victor MeldrewV Online
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    Victor Meldrew
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    @tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:

    He assumed the job with massive goodwill from everyone except Foster, Hansen and their compadres and the bad will they had built up from 2017 to 2024 invalidated their negativity.

    It's increasingly looking like he assumed the role with an over-inflated CV., aided by his fluffers in the media who lost all sense of objectivity.

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    canefan
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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @tubbyj said in All Blacks 2026:

    He assumed the job with massive goodwill from everyone except Foster, Hansen and their compadres and the bad will they had built up from 2017 to 2024 invalidated their negativity.

    It's increasingly looking like he assumed the role with an over-inflated CV., aided by his fluffers in the media who lost all sense of objectivity.

    If what has been said on here is true, that Razor assumed a similar role and let his assistants coach the team at the Saders, he shouldn't have been considered for the HC job unless that's exactly what Robinson expected of him

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    replied to canefan last edited by ShaquilleOatmeal
    #265

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    Speaking of placating the hordes, normally the ABs losing enrages the hordes. But it might be a sign of how far we've sunk that average fans seem accepting of it all

    Looking at social media comments, I’m convinced most people either don’t notice the team’s lost or just don’t watch the games. The sycophantic nature of the comments and ignorance of the overall performance is crazy.

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    @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    Speaking of placating the hordes, normally the ABs losing enrages the hordes. But it might be a sign of how far we've sunk that average fans seem accepting of it all

    Looking at social media comments, I’m convinced most people either don’t notice the team’s lost or just don’t watch the games. The sycophantic nature of the comments and ignorance of the overall performance is crazy.

    The ridiculous love for Ardie is unreal.

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