Ashes 2025/6
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@No-Quarter said in Ashes 2025/6:
/GOM it's annoying that the graphic at the bottom always displays "Australia need 4 more wickets to retain the Ashes" instead of how many runs England need to win. No shit, England are 6 down, I can do the math. Please just show a running total of how many runs are needed you clowns.
Fox and Australia both arguably going through the motions this morning.
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England win that session, but still unlikely to win the game. Though with Lyon out that opens the door just a bit. The manner of dismissal for Smith was so frustrating...
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@Donsteppa said in Ashes 2025/6:
This is why England were so frustratingly awful in Perth - as unusually there are some real journeymen in this Oz side.
2nd innings 100 run lead, 9 wickets in hand….
No Cummins, no Lyon -
Well that was a decent effort from England in the second innings - best I've seen Crawley bat, he looked really assured. And they got some runs from having a deep batting line-up although it always looks a bit fraught.
Surely England must take at least one of the 2 remaining tests now the series is gone and so is Lyon?
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Well that's the end of that nonsense.
I can't wait for Boycotts column. Should make for good reading.
England showed more guts and determination on the whole but still not enough, as @Donsteppa said this Australian team aren't without weaknesses but their big guns stood up when needed.
It must be shit being in Oz, 3-0 down, series gone already, knowing the press will be ripping them apart and realising they have to man up to try and get a bit of respectability.
.....and maybe some "moral victories" along the way too.
Oz might relax a bit, no Lyon makes things a bit closer........
I'm picking 4-1.
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Congratulations, Australia on retaining the Ashes again and in just 11 days! They are a team of ruthless winners and deserve every bit of success
England fought really hard today, probably for the first time since Day One of the series. But they are still inferior to Australia in batting, bowling and fielding and seem to be much worse in terms of team spirit and pride in their national shirt and cap.
Despite the injuries and the possibility of rain in Melbourne and Sydney, I'm still picking 5-0 to Australia.
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Jeetan Patel with a quote around the "Ashes being 'the' series is everyone else's story" should also see him out the exit door even faster than Jimmy Anderson was retired to 'prepare for the next Ashes'.
Between Baz, Stokes, and now Jeetan's work with Will Jacks, we seem to have Kiwi's wrecking the Poms chances left right and centre. No shortage of idiotic quotes between them all.
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Almost one for the memes thread, but a great 90 seconds ish yarn from Phil Tuffnell on ABC radio during the Test about an old school umpire, LBW's, and a looming dinner date.
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@Donsteppa said in Ashes 2025/6:
Almost one for the memes thread, but a great 90 seconds ish yarn from Phil Tuffnell on ABC radio during the Test about an old school umpire, LBW's, and a looming dinner date.
Tufnell was a definite character.
Possibly the worst test batsman until Chris Martin came along and not a good fielder either. I remember he was on the boundary having missed one that went for four and some munters in the crowd gave him shit which he returned in kind with interest, he made all sorts of hand ( and mouth ) gestures that were quite eye opening for 14 year old me. Would have been at this match ( thanks Cricinfo )
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Agree with the angles here that England have blown some winnable scenarios. What I also didn’t understand was why England didn’t try to drag them into deep water from the start.
There is no way Duckett and Pope can play next week. They’re toast. Crawley did enough to earn a reprieve.
Also think Brook needs a talking to at minimum and potentially dropping too. Call me crazy but this kid can be an all timer with some adjustments.
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Duckett has credit in the bank, plus of course we don't have a back up opener. Planning huh? Pope I agree must have the doors of the Last Chance Saloon slapping him on the arse on the way out. The Brook thing is probably a bit more nuanced. It is difficult to discipline someone for playing in an overtly attacking manner when that has been the oft spouted preferred way. Some of the quotes from the England team over the last year or two have been cringeworthy and then to castigate a batsman for playing in the way suggested is a bit unfair just because it didn't come off.
I really like the attacking intent England have been playing with over the last few years, it certainly beats the negative methodology of previous regimes. However the going down all guns blazing all the time does need reigning in. There must be some middle ground.
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@Catogrande said in Ashes 2025/6:
Duckett has credit in the bank, plus of course we don't have a back up opener. Planning huh? Pope I agree must have the doors of the Last Chance Saloon slapping him on the arse on the way out. The Brook thing is probably a bit more nuanced. It is difficult to discipline someone for playing in an overtly attacking manner when that has been the oft spouted preferred way. Some of the quotes from the England team over the last year or two have been cringeworthy and then to castigate a batsman for playing in the way suggested is a bit unfair just because it didn't come off.
I really like the attacking intent England have been playing with over the last few years, it certainly beats the negative methodology of previous regimes. However the going down all guns blazing all the time does need reigning in. There must be some middle ground.
We all know the prep has been suicidal.
3 test’s in a month before xmas.
England should have has 3-4 players play in oz cricket every year leading up to this. And if Oz dont organise enough practice mstches, then they should have brought the Lions out and played their own warm up matches themselves.
No point playing yourself into form for the boxing day test when you have lost the series
It looks like Bazball v.1 has run its course. It has been fantastic for England and if rain stayed away in Manchester for an hour they would have gone to Australia to defend the ashes.
I think England underestimated OZ hate for bazball and the need to humiliate England. Especially after the flashpoints of the last series such as the Carey incident.
