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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2026:

    Robert Van Rooyen circle jerk for ya

    Crusaders circle jerk with Knowler there alongside him although Knowler was playing the (only) slightly more balanced role in the exchange.

    Takeaways:

    • Mo'unga was finally coming right after 50 tests when he took the Yen and ran.
    • Everything was BB's fault.
    • The assistant coaches are all good because they once made the Crusaders backline "hiss".
    • Barrett is fine despite the fact he needs to play better and tidy up his discipline which has been shit all career.
    • Razor doesn't have the cattle but also the team makes too many unforced errors and they'd threaten the Boks without those (so wait we do have the cattle?)
    • The most important thing it the ABs are peaking in 2027 (fuck off, we're not a RWC only team).

    They've done that with the ABs backline too in that they hiss while they're deflating.

    You'd think these 2 fanboy 'journos' would have gotten the message that Super Rugby and Test Rigby are worlds apart by now.

    Regular Show is wonderful, used to enjoy watching it with my boys.

    But to address your point, Ardie Savea made quite a number of World Teams of the year so that should tell you all you need to know.

    A great highlights reel player.

    Has someone put together a highlights reel for him for 2025?

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    ShaquilleOatmeal
    wrote on last edited by
    #425

    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2026:

    Robert Van Rooyen circle jerk for ya

    Crusaders circle jerk with Knowler there alongside him although Knowler was playing the (only) slightly more balanced role in the exchange.

    Takeaways:

    • Mo'unga was finally coming right after 50 tests when he took the Yen and ran.
    • Everything was BB's fault.
    • The assistant coaches are all good because they once made the Crusaders backline "hiss".
    • Barrett is fine despite the fact he needs to play better and tidy up his discipline which has been shit all career.
    • Razor doesn't have the cattle but also the team makes too many unforced errors and they'd threaten the Boks without those (so wait we do have the cattle?)
    • The most important thing it the ABs are peaking in 2027 (fuck off, we're not a RWC only team).

    They've done that with the ABs backline too in that they hiss while they're deflating.

    You'd think these 2 fanboy 'journos' would have gotten the message that Super Rugby and Test Rigby are worlds apart by now.

    Regular Show is wonderful, used to enjoy watching it with my boys.

    But to address your point, Ardie Savea made quite a number of World Teams of the year so that should tell you all you need to know.

    A great highlights reel player.

    Has someone put together a highlights reel for him for 2025?

    Has someone put together a lowlights reel of him walking on defence, refusing to hit rucks and being miles away from where he’s required? I’m only semi-joking here - it’d be interesting to see the reaction from fans who only watch highlights.

    canefanC 1 Reply Last reply
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    • ShaquilleOatmealS ShaquilleOatmeal

      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

      @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2026:

      Robert Van Rooyen circle jerk for ya

      Crusaders circle jerk with Knowler there alongside him although Knowler was playing the (only) slightly more balanced role in the exchange.

      Takeaways:

      • Mo'unga was finally coming right after 50 tests when he took the Yen and ran.
      • Everything was BB's fault.
      • The assistant coaches are all good because they once made the Crusaders backline "hiss".
      • Barrett is fine despite the fact he needs to play better and tidy up his discipline which has been shit all career.
      • Razor doesn't have the cattle but also the team makes too many unforced errors and they'd threaten the Boks without those (so wait we do have the cattle?)
      • The most important thing it the ABs are peaking in 2027 (fuck off, we're not a RWC only team).

      They've done that with the ABs backline too in that they hiss while they're deflating.

      You'd think these 2 fanboy 'journos' would have gotten the message that Super Rugby and Test Rigby are worlds apart by now.

      Regular Show is wonderful, used to enjoy watching it with my boys.

      But to address your point, Ardie Savea made quite a number of World Teams of the year so that should tell you all you need to know.

      A great highlights reel player.

      Has someone put together a highlights reel for him for 2025?

      Has someone put together a lowlights reel of him walking on defence, refusing to hit rucks and being miles away from where he’s required? I’m only semi-joking here - it’d be interesting to see the reaction from fans who only watch highlights.

      canefanC Offline
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      canefan
      wrote on last edited by
      #426

      @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:

      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

      @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2026:

      Robert Van Rooyen circle jerk for ya

      Crusaders circle jerk with Knowler there alongside him although Knowler was playing the (only) slightly more balanced role in the exchange.

      Takeaways:

      • Mo'unga was finally coming right after 50 tests when he took the Yen and ran.
      • Everything was BB's fault.
      • The assistant coaches are all good because they once made the Crusaders backline "hiss".
      • Barrett is fine despite the fact he needs to play better and tidy up his discipline which has been shit all career.
      • Razor doesn't have the cattle but also the team makes too many unforced errors and they'd threaten the Boks without those (so wait we do have the cattle?)
      • The most important thing it the ABs are peaking in 2027 (fuck off, we're not a RWC only team).

      They've done that with the ABs backline too in that they hiss while they're deflating.

      You'd think these 2 fanboy 'journos' would have gotten the message that Super Rugby and Test Rigby are worlds apart by now.

      Regular Show is wonderful, used to enjoy watching it with my boys.

      But to address your point, Ardie Savea made quite a number of World Teams of the year so that should tell you all you need to know.

      A great highlights reel player.

      Has someone put together a highlights reel for him for 2025?

      Has someone put together a lowlights reel of him walking on defence, refusing to hit rucks and being miles away from where he’s required? I’m only semi-joking here - it’d be interesting to see the reaction from fans who only watch highlights.

      They'd just call it fake news

      African MonkeyA 1 Reply Last reply
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      • canefanC canefan

        @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:

        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

        @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2026:

        Robert Van Rooyen circle jerk for ya

        Crusaders circle jerk with Knowler there alongside him although Knowler was playing the (only) slightly more balanced role in the exchange.

        Takeaways:

        • Mo'unga was finally coming right after 50 tests when he took the Yen and ran.
        • Everything was BB's fault.
        • The assistant coaches are all good because they once made the Crusaders backline "hiss".
        • Barrett is fine despite the fact he needs to play better and tidy up his discipline which has been shit all career.
        • Razor doesn't have the cattle but also the team makes too many unforced errors and they'd threaten the Boks without those (so wait we do have the cattle?)
        • The most important thing it the ABs are peaking in 2027 (fuck off, we're not a RWC only team).

        They've done that with the ABs backline too in that they hiss while they're deflating.

        You'd think these 2 fanboy 'journos' would have gotten the message that Super Rugby and Test Rigby are worlds apart by now.

        Regular Show is wonderful, used to enjoy watching it with my boys.

        But to address your point, Ardie Savea made quite a number of World Teams of the year so that should tell you all you need to know.

        A great highlights reel player.

        Has someone put together a highlights reel for him for 2025?

        Has someone put together a lowlights reel of him walking on defence, refusing to hit rucks and being miles away from where he’s required? I’m only semi-joking here - it’d be interesting to see the reaction from fans who only watch highlights.

        They'd just call it fake news

        African MonkeyA Offline
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        African Monkey
        wrote on last edited by
        #427

        @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

        @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:

        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

        @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2026:

        Robert Van Rooyen circle jerk for ya

        Crusaders circle jerk with Knowler there alongside him although Knowler was playing the (only) slightly more balanced role in the exchange.

        Takeaways:

        • Mo'unga was finally coming right after 50 tests when he took the Yen and ran.
        • Everything was BB's fault.
        • The assistant coaches are all good because they once made the Crusaders backline "hiss".
        • Barrett is fine despite the fact he needs to play better and tidy up his discipline which has been shit all career.
        • Razor doesn't have the cattle but also the team makes too many unforced errors and they'd threaten the Boks without those (so wait we do have the cattle?)
        • The most important thing it the ABs are peaking in 2027 (fuck off, we're not a RWC only team).

        They've done that with the ABs backline too in that they hiss while they're deflating.

        You'd think these 2 fanboy 'journos' would have gotten the message that Super Rugby and Test Rigby are worlds apart by now.

        Regular Show is wonderful, used to enjoy watching it with my boys.

        But to address your point, Ardie Savea made quite a number of World Teams of the year so that should tell you all you need to know.

        A great highlights reel player.

        Has someone put together a highlights reel for him for 2025?

        Has someone put together a lowlights reel of him walking on defence, refusing to hit rucks and being miles away from where he’s required? I’m only semi-joking here - it’d be interesting to see the reaction from fans who only watch highlights.

        They'd just call it fake news

        'He's allowed a break after carrying the team on his own for all these years'

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        • African MonkeyA African Monkey

          @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

          @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:

          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

          @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2026:

          Robert Van Rooyen circle jerk for ya

          Crusaders circle jerk with Knowler there alongside him although Knowler was playing the (only) slightly more balanced role in the exchange.

          Takeaways:

          • Mo'unga was finally coming right after 50 tests when he took the Yen and ran.
          • Everything was BB's fault.
          • The assistant coaches are all good because they once made the Crusaders backline "hiss".
          • Barrett is fine despite the fact he needs to play better and tidy up his discipline which has been shit all career.
          • Razor doesn't have the cattle but also the team makes too many unforced errors and they'd threaten the Boks without those (so wait we do have the cattle?)
          • The most important thing it the ABs are peaking in 2027 (fuck off, we're not a RWC only team).

          They've done that with the ABs backline too in that they hiss while they're deflating.

          You'd think these 2 fanboy 'journos' would have gotten the message that Super Rugby and Test Rigby are worlds apart by now.

          Regular Show is wonderful, used to enjoy watching it with my boys.

          But to address your point, Ardie Savea made quite a number of World Teams of the year so that should tell you all you need to know.

          A great highlights reel player.

          Has someone put together a highlights reel for him for 2025?

          Has someone put together a lowlights reel of him walking on defence, refusing to hit rucks and being miles away from where he’s required? I’m only semi-joking here - it’d be interesting to see the reaction from fans who only watch highlights.

          They'd just call it fake news

          'He's allowed a break after carrying the team on his own for all these years'

          Dan54D Offline
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          Dan54
          wrote on last edited by
          #428

          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

          @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

          @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:

          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

          @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2026:

          Robert Van Rooyen circle jerk for ya

          Crusaders circle jerk with Knowler there alongside him although Knowler was playing the (only) slightly more balanced role in the exchange.

          Takeaways:

          • Mo'unga was finally coming right after 50 tests when he took the Yen and ran.
          • Everything was BB's fault.
          • The assistant coaches are all good because they once made the Crusaders backline "hiss".
          • Barrett is fine despite the fact he needs to play better and tidy up his discipline which has been shit all career.
          • Razor doesn't have the cattle but also the team makes too many unforced errors and they'd threaten the Boks without those (so wait we do have the cattle?)
          • The most important thing it the ABs are peaking in 2027 (fuck off, we're not a RWC only team).

          They've done that with the ABs backline too in that they hiss while they're deflating.

          You'd think these 2 fanboy 'journos' would have gotten the message that Super Rugby and Test Rigby are worlds apart by now.

          Regular Show is wonderful, used to enjoy watching it with my boys.

          But to address your point, Ardie Savea made quite a number of World Teams of the year so that should tell you all you need to know.

          A great highlights reel player.

          Has someone put together a highlights reel for him for 2025?

          Has someone put together a lowlights reel of him walking on defence, refusing to hit rucks and being miles away from where he’s required? I’m only semi-joking here - it’d be interesting to see the reaction from fans who only watch highlights.

          They'd just call it fake news

          'He's allowed a break after carrying the team on his own for all these years'

          I just don't get the Ardie hate that goes on in here. He was absolutely worn out at end of this year, but bet he be one first named in team going forward. Well he would be in my team, Hiw man problem year just gone was coaches running him into ground, and that started with Tana in super.

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          • SouthernMannS Offline
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            #429

            Ardie's problem is that he is an absolute freak who can do things no other loosie in the country can. The criticism comes from not having the traditional skills/playing style of any of the 6,7 or 8 roles.

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            • African MonkeyA African Monkey

              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2026:

              @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

              @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

              @chchfanatic (wherever he is now) can confirm for us that they hated Akira. He was at a bbq with them and Akira's name got bought up and they all laughed at him circa 2018.

              Laughed at Akira, circa 2018? Professional coaches did that?

              According to him, yes.

              Him being chchfanatic or Akira?
              The Cantab mafia have been a bit quiet lately. I really enjoyed ChCh sauce as he clearly knows much and was happy to share. It would be fascinating to hear what is being said there at the moment.

              Him being chchfanatic.

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              #430

              @African-Monkey thanks for the compliment. I don’t really come on here much . Too many people on here think too highly of themselves. Much prefer the warriors forum.
              I dont catch up with my source that much anymore. He’s a little busy and I know longer do the role he was helping me with.
              I know there’s some sort of article they’re trying to keep out of the papers.

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              • C chchfanatic

                @African-Monkey thanks for the compliment. I don’t really come on here much . Too many people on here think too highly of themselves. Much prefer the warriors forum.
                I dont catch up with my source that much anymore. He’s a little busy and I know longer do the role he was helping me with.
                I know there’s some sort of article they’re trying to keep out of the papers.

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                #431

                @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2026:

                Too many people on here think too highly of themselves

                You're welcome.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2026:

                  Too many people on here think too highly of themselves

                  You're welcome.

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                  chchfanatic
                  wrote on last edited by chchfanatic
                  #432

                  @Bones haha love your work.
                  I think Razor was always up against it , no matter how well he did. The nth island journos hammer him on everything. Which is par for the course and something I’m sure he expected.
                  I believe (don’t know) that he never got the coaching group he wanted at the start. He put forward the group that NZ rugby would want to see , to win the job. If you know what I’m trying to say. I think we may see ROG or Andrew Goodman at some stage.
                  I think he thought his theming and culture from the crusaders would work and it hasn’t. From what I’ve heard Ardie has been quite hard to deal with.
                  Did the All Blacks actually have that bad a year.?
                  Yes the loss to Pumas was embarrassing and shouldn’t happen , but they also beat Aussie and were very close against SA
                  SA are an absolute beast at the moment, potentially one of the greatest teams ever. We beat them in Auckland and got destroyed the week after.
                  Everyone forgets we were missing some of our stars for the EOYT and Jordie got injured as well. Cant imagine losing Holland just before kickoff helped either. A terrible Codie Taylor YC changed all momentum in that game.

                  I personally don’t care about rugby like I used to. Whatever it is , the product is not what it used to be. I thought Super and NPC were great last year. Always good when your teams win the championships though.
                  But international rugby is so over officiated. I used to get up and watch the games live. Now I just watch recorded when i wake up.
                  Whatever the warriors and NRL have done is working. But rugby people will never accept that.
                  These are just my thoughts and I’m slightly hungover so not my best work. Happy new year to everyone on here. Let’s hope Razor has a better year.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #433

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360916300/which-players-could-be-thin-ice-all-blacks-prepare-daunting-17-match-itinerary

                    Whew, according to this article Mounga will walk straight back into the team and no mention of Ardie Savea so he's safe.

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                    • C chchfanatic

                      @Bones haha love your work.
                      I think Razor was always up against it , no matter how well he did. The nth island journos hammer him on everything. Which is par for the course and something I’m sure he expected.
                      I believe (don’t know) that he never got the coaching group he wanted at the start. He put forward the group that NZ rugby would want to see , to win the job. If you know what I’m trying to say. I think we may see ROG or Andrew Goodman at some stage.
                      I think he thought his theming and culture from the crusaders would work and it hasn’t. From what I’ve heard Ardie has been quite hard to deal with.
                      Did the All Blacks actually have that bad a year.?
                      Yes the loss to Pumas was embarrassing and shouldn’t happen , but they also beat Aussie and were very close against SA
                      SA are an absolute beast at the moment, potentially one of the greatest teams ever. We beat them in Auckland and got destroyed the week after.
                      Everyone forgets we were missing some of our stars for the EOYT and Jordie got injured as well. Cant imagine losing Holland just before kickoff helped either. A terrible Codie Taylor YC changed all momentum in that game.

                      I personally don’t care about rugby like I used to. Whatever it is , the product is not what it used to be. I thought Super and NPC were great last year. Always good when your teams win the championships though.
                      But international rugby is so over officiated. I used to get up and watch the games live. Now I just watch recorded when i wake up.
                      Whatever the warriors and NRL have done is working. But rugby people will never accept that.
                      These are just my thoughts and I’m slightly hungover so not my best work. Happy new year to everyone on here. Let’s hope Razor has a better year.

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                      #434

                      @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2026:

                      I think Razor was always up against it , no matter how well he did. The nth island journos hammer him on everything. Which is par for the course and something I’m sure he expected.

                      He’s had friendlier media than any coach before him. It’s not even close.

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2026:

                        I think Razor was always up against it , no matter how well he did. The nth island journos hammer him on everything. Which is par for the course and something I’m sure he expected.

                        He’s had friendlier media than any coach before him. It’s not even close.

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                        #435

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2026:

                        @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2026:

                        I think Razor was always up against it , no matter how well he did. The nth island journos hammer him on everything. Which is par for the course and something I’m sure he expected.

                        He’s had friendlier media than any coach before him. It’s not even close.

                        I think he had so many that saw him as the saviour before he got the job , that it took them a while to do a u turn and start questioning did we get it wrong , but I’m noticing it’s starting to happen .

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                        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2026:

                          @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2026:

                          I think Razor was always up against it , no matter how well he did. The nth island journos hammer him on everything. Which is par for the course and something I’m sure he expected.

                          He’s had friendlier media than any coach before him. It’s not even close.

                          I think he had so many that saw him as the saviour before he got the job , that it took them a while to do a u turn and start questioning did we get it wrong , but I’m noticing it’s starting to happen .

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                          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:

                          I think he had so many that saw him as the saviour before he got the job

                          I think far too many people also thought all the problems with the AB's (and the strength of NZ rugby) came down to one bloke - the Head Coach.

                          That was bollocks two years ago and it's bollocks now

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                          • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                            Ardie's problem is that he is an absolute freak who can do things no other loosie in the country can. The criticism comes from not having the traditional skills/playing style of any of the 6,7 or 8 roles.

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                            #437

                            @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2026:

                            Ardie's problem is that he is an absolute freak who can do things no other loosie in the country can. The criticism comes from not having the traditional skills/playing style of any of the 6,7 or 8 roles.

                            The problem is I don’t actually think we have many loosies that are international standard.

                            All of Blackadder, Jacobsen, Papali’i are much of a muchness at test level. Kirifi is too small. Finau is a pretender. Ardie is a hybrid. Lakai and Sititi have shown plenty of promise but are still very young. Parker is a big body but the verdicts still out.

                            Unfortunately I just don’t think we have the cattle to develop a world class trio by the WC.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2026:

                              Ardie's problem is that he is an absolute freak who can do things no other loosie in the country can. The criticism comes from not having the traditional skills/playing style of any of the 6,7 or 8 roles.

                              The problem is I don’t actually think we have many loosies that are international standard.

                              All of Blackadder, Jacobsen, Papali’i are much of a muchness at test level. Kirifi is too small. Finau is a pretender. Ardie is a hybrid. Lakai and Sititi have shown plenty of promise but are still very young. Parker is a big body but the verdicts still out.

                              Unfortunately I just don’t think we have the cattle to develop a world class trio by the WC.

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                              @Canes4life hOsKinS sOtUtu

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                              • frugbyF frugby

                                @Canes4life hOsKinS sOtUtu

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                                @frugby said in All Blacks 2026:

                                @Canes4life hOsKinS sOtUtu

                                Yeah well I wouldn’t be surprised if Sotutu has the last laugh.

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2026:

                                  Ardie's problem is that he is an absolute freak who can do things no other loosie in the country can. The criticism comes from not having the traditional skills/playing style of any of the 6,7 or 8 roles.

                                  The problem is I don’t actually think we have many loosies that are international standard.

                                  All of Blackadder, Jacobsen, Papali’i are much of a muchness at test level. Kirifi is too small. Finau is a pretender. Ardie is a hybrid. Lakai and Sititi have shown plenty of promise but are still very young. Parker is a big body but the verdicts still out.

                                  Unfortunately I just don’t think we have the cattle to develop a world class trio by the WC.

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                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:

                                  @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2026:

                                  Ardie's problem is that he is an absolute freak who can do things no other loosie in the country can. The criticism comes from not having the traditional skills/playing style of any of the 6,7 or 8 roles.

                                  The problem is I don’t actually think we have many loosies that are international standard.

                                  All of Blackadder, Jacobsen, Papali’i are much of a muchness at test level. Kirifi is too small. Finau is a pretender. Ardie is a hybrid. Lakai and Sititi have shown plenty of promise but are still very young. Parker is a big body but the verdicts still out.

                                  Unfortunately I just don’t think we have the cattle to develop a world class trio by the WC.

                                  I think he's better than those two and was sorely missed last year. The real reason why he wasn't selected is anyone's guess.

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                                  • Dan54D Dan54

                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    Robert Van Rooyen circle jerk for ya

                                    Crusaders circle jerk with Knowler there alongside him although Knowler was playing the (only) slightly more balanced role in the exchange.

                                    Takeaways:

                                    • Mo'unga was finally coming right after 50 tests when he took the Yen and ran.
                                    • Everything was BB's fault.
                                    • The assistant coaches are all good because they once made the Crusaders backline "hiss".
                                    • Barrett is fine despite the fact he needs to play better and tidy up his discipline which has been shit all career.
                                    • Razor doesn't have the cattle but also the team makes too many unforced errors and they'd threaten the Boks without those (so wait we do have the cattle?)
                                    • The most important thing it the ABs are peaking in 2027 (fuck off, we're not a RWC only team).

                                    They've done that with the ABs backline too in that they hiss while they're deflating.

                                    You'd think these 2 fanboy 'journos' would have gotten the message that Super Rugby and Test Rigby are worlds apart by now.

                                    Regular Show is wonderful, used to enjoy watching it with my boys.

                                    But to address your point, Ardie Savea made quite a number of World Teams of the year so that should tell you all you need to know.

                                    A great highlights reel player.

                                    Has someone put together a highlights reel for him for 2025?

                                    Has someone put together a lowlights reel of him walking on defence, refusing to hit rucks and being miles away from where he’s required? I’m only semi-joking here - it’d be interesting to see the reaction from fans who only watch highlights.

                                    They'd just call it fake news

                                    'He's allowed a break after carrying the team on his own for all these years'

                                    I just don't get the Ardie hate that goes on in here. He was absolutely worn out at end of this year, but bet he be one first named in team going forward. Well he would be in my team, Hiw man problem year just gone was coaches running him into ground, and that started with Tana in super.

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                                    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2026:

                                    Robert Van Rooyen circle jerk for ya

                                    Crusaders circle jerk with Knowler there alongside him although Knowler was playing the (only) slightly more balanced role in the exchange.

                                    Takeaways:

                                    • Mo'unga was finally coming right after 50 tests when he took the Yen and ran.
                                    • Everything was BB's fault.
                                    • The assistant coaches are all good because they once made the Crusaders backline "hiss".
                                    • Barrett is fine despite the fact he needs to play better and tidy up his discipline which has been shit all career.
                                    • Razor doesn't have the cattle but also the team makes too many unforced errors and they'd threaten the Boks without those (so wait we do have the cattle?)
                                    • The most important thing it the ABs are peaking in 2027 (fuck off, we're not a RWC only team).

                                    They've done that with the ABs backline too in that they hiss while they're deflating.

                                    You'd think these 2 fanboy 'journos' would have gotten the message that Super Rugby and Test Rigby are worlds apart by now.

                                    Regular Show is wonderful, used to enjoy watching it with my boys.

                                    But to address your point, Ardie Savea made quite a number of World Teams of the year so that should tell you all you need to know.

                                    A great highlights reel player.

                                    Has someone put together a highlights reel for him for 2025?

                                    Has someone put together a lowlights reel of him walking on defence, refusing to hit rucks and being miles away from where he’s required? I’m only semi-joking here - it’d be interesting to see the reaction from fans who only watch highlights.

                                    They'd just call it fake news

                                    'He's allowed a break after carrying the team on his own for all these years'

                                    I just don't get the Ardie hate that goes on in here. He was absolutely worn out at end of this year, but bet he be one first named in team going forward. Well he would be in my team, Hiw man problem year just gone was coaches running him into ground, and that started with Tana in super.

                                    Of course he's first name on the teamsheet, always will be whilst available, but for me, he's refusing to do the work of a 7. He's not tackling properly, only ever looking for the turnover which works every 8 or so tackles, so when he isn't winning the turnover, he's basically dragging players over the advantage line and getting cleaned out, as was evident against the Wallabies at Eden Park where he and Sititi's lack of effort on defence was evident, and he doesn't clean rucks. He's happy waiting for the ball, but he ain't doing anything to help us retain the ball. Simon Parker or whoever is im the 6 jersey has an extremely hard job having to clean up the work that he and Sititi aren't doing in close.

                                    He's not the only one who has extremely bad habits in his game at the moment, but with the amount of plaudits the guy gets for just breathing, I can see why people on here criticise him.

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2026:

                                      I think Razor was always up against it , no matter how well he did. The nth island journos hammer him on everything. Which is par for the course and something I’m sure he expected.

                                      He’s had friendlier media than any coach before him. It’s not even close.

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                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2026:

                                      @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2026:

                                      I think Razor was always up against it , no matter how well he did. The nth island journos hammer him on everything. Which is par for the course and something I’m sure he expected.

                                      He’s had friendlier media than any coach before him. It’s not even close.

                                      Yeah please. Which North Island journos have hammered him exactly?

                                      Only one man got constantly hammered in the media and that was Ian Foster. Razor has had more backing than anybody and was loved across the board. The only criticism he got was from people on here lol.

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2026:

                                        Ardie's problem is that he is an absolute freak who can do things no other loosie in the country can. The criticism comes from not having the traditional skills/playing style of any of the 6,7 or 8 roles.

                                        The problem is I don’t actually think we have many loosies that are international standard.

                                        All of Blackadder, Jacobsen, Papali’i are much of a muchness at test level. Kirifi is too small. Finau is a pretender. Ardie is a hybrid. Lakai and Sititi have shown plenty of promise but are still very young. Parker is a big body but the verdicts still out.

                                        Unfortunately I just don’t think we have the cattle to develop a world class trio by the WC.

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                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:

                                        @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2026:

                                        Ardie's problem is that he is an absolute freak who can do things no other loosie in the country can. The criticism comes from not having the traditional skills/playing style of any of the 6,7 or 8 roles.

                                        The problem is I don’t actually think we have many loosies that are international standard.

                                        All of Blackadder, Jacobsen, Papali’i are much of a muchness at test level. Kirifi is too small. Finau is a pretender. Ardie is a hybrid. Lakai and Sititi have shown plenty of promise but are still very young. Parker is a big body but the verdicts still out.

                                        Unfortunately I just don’t think we have the cattle to develop a world class trio by the WC.

                                        We do, the coaching staff just aren't getting the best out of these players.

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                                        • frugbyF frugby

                                          @Canes4life hOsKinS sOtUtu

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                                          @frugby said in All Blacks 2026:

                                          @Canes4life hOsKinS sOtUtu

                                          Well it didn't exactly send a positive message across the board not picking him did it?

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