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    @MN5 early caller said that he new of four current ABs that wouldn't play under current AB coaches and Ardie was only name mentioned and Sam Casey confirmed he's also been told same thing but didn't name others.

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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @MacDazzler Sam Casey also confirmed that it's very unlikely that Ardie Savea would play again under current AB coaches.

    That sems highly unlikely to me given he was picked in basically every team regardless of form and handed captaincy during Scott's injury.

    Also the AB Media team fluffing him every possible second.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

    Is there a chance that Razor and his team goes before the RWC if we have a poor year?

    Not much, noone else would take the job as it would be a no win I suspect.

    Makes me wonder who was the last coach if any to win an RWC within 2 years of being appointed...there is of course the tactical surprise/potential advantage of a new kid on the block...

    Plus there is always the option of keeping the head coach (the ra ra guy) and getting rid of an assistant coach (the Captain Bligh guy)...

    In case this is not a rhetorical question, the current WC winning coach.

    Appointed 2017, they won in 2019.

    Yep , mind you he was already their director of rugby. Not sure we have similar. Wayne Smith is perhaps close, but I will bet he won't take job on.

    He took up the DOR role in December 2017, became coach in February 2018.

    He may have been planning since June of that year, but the point stands that people can take over and win.

    its wild, feels like hes been with the Bokke to decades, so big is his presence in the game

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2026:

    If true, who has made that decision?

    If it's the coaches, they might not be a lost cause just yet, but if it's Savea, that adds further fuel to the fire about the toxic nature of the current AB setup.

    Yep but a bit of speculation isn't it? Though I understand it, lol no rugby to keep us occupied.

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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @MN5 early caller said that he new of four current ABs that wouldn't play under current AB coaches and Ardie was only name mentioned and Sam Casey confirmed he's also been told same thing but didn't name others.

    Pardon my ignorance, who is Sam Casey, why is he getting inside info, and then making it public? I have never really heard the name before.
    But there is some concern if it actually true.

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    @Dan54 apparently he's good mates with Jordie ALB Jordan and couple others .

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    The important bit is they're well positioned to turn this around now they've got a guy in who is a specialist in team culture. Hopefully the coaches give him the space and authority to work his magic.

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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Dan54 apparently he's good mates with Jordie ALB Jordan and couple others .

    Cheers mate, as I said I probably missed someone explaining who he was.

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    wrote last edited by Chris
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    The rumours are getting more unbelievable every day.
    Ardie will back in black in 2026 I have no doubt.He has free reign in the ABs to do what he likes.

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    @Chris you would think so but must admit I'm not sure anymore

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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2026:

    The rumours are getting more unbelivable every day.
    Ardie will back in black in 2026 I have no doubt.He has free reign in the ABs to do what he likes.

    Hitting rucks, mauls, tackling etc is for other chumps. As long as he's free to run the ball he'll have lots of good content for his socials in 26......

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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Chris you would think so but must admit I'm not sure anymore

    George if you put everything together that has been posted on this page and put it all together you would be confused,But when you really look at it all you can see a lot is just not true.
    I think you may find these players who will not play for the ABs again is not by their choice, I believe a clean out of players is going to happen.

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    Rumours are Razor will walk away .
    Camp will go ahead under new management.

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    george33
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    Kirk has most likely sacked him

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    This is cruel if it turns out not be true.

    I just broke all my fingers crossing them so hard.

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    @Kirwan if it turns out that is true or not obviously seriously toxic in my view and can't go on.

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    assuming its true....really just for the purposes of a chat

    im conflicted.....i didn't want them to drag things out like they did with fozzie...but also....getting rid of razor and keeping all the players that have been there through these poor performances and possibly seeding the toxic environment is also not good

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:

    assuming its true....really just for the purposes of a chat

    im conflicted.....i didn't want the to drag things out like they did with fozzie...but also....getting rid of razor and keeping all the players that have been there through these poor performances and possibly seeding the toxic environment is also not good

    Yeah I feel the same way if coaches go players should go as well.
    Start again, tough gig for someone to take over probably the toughest test schedule this year than for many years.
    A new coach has a couple of weeks after SR to take on that tour to SA.
    After this year a new coach might be under massive pressure also.
    Even accounting for some leeway due to taking over at short notice.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2026:

    these "leaks" make no sense

    The guy that, from the outside anyway, looks to be at the heart of our struggles when we have the ball, is not only locked in the jersey, he's actively running the team?
    A guy who plays every minute of every test with what appears no accountability for any of the weaknesses in his game won't play for them any more?

    I am many confused.

    Maybe leaking weird things to see how fast they make it onto the Fern as a bit of sport…

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:

    assuming its true....really just for the purposes of a chat

    im conflicted.....i didn't want them to drag things out like they did with fozzie...but also....getting rid of razor and keeping all the players that have been there through these poor performances and possibly seeding the toxic environment is also not good

    i was about to post "I will absolutely crack up if they sack the coaches and then the same players get picked in July anyway"

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