All Blacks 2026
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
It still feels like Schmidt's most likely role would be a high performance director as opposed to HC based on his family situation
Schmidt's situation, plus Cotter had been talking about retirement (hadn't he?) gives a bit of extra life to that 'dream team' type scenario, where people would be prepared to be part of it in some role that isn't HC and just want the best for the ABs.
To try to give a more positive spin than @Chris ...
In fact your idea could play into it too though mate, e.g. if a HC candidate thought it might well go tits-up, and then think perhaps an assistant role - involvement without the ultimate responsibility - might be the better option for a couple of years? -
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
It still feels like Schmidt's most likely role would be a high performance director as opposed to HC based on his family situation
Schmidt's situation, plus Cotter had been talking about retirement (hadn't he?) gives a bit of extra life to that 'dream team' type scenario, where people would be prepared to be part of it in some role that isn't HC and just want the best for the ABs.
To try to give a more positive spin than @Chris ...
In fact your idea could play into it too though mate, e.g. if a HC candidate thought it might well go tits-up, and then think perhaps an assistant role - involvement without the ultimate responsibility - might be the better option for a couple of years?Taking a coaching role you are looking at 2 situations most of the time.
1.The team is starting to move upwards or you see the potential for immediate success and you can add to that and take it to the next level.
2.The team is not in a good spot so you need to change structures and attitudes, which normally means a clean out of players as some players don't react well to change and fight it, you need everyone on board they have to go,or those players do not fit your vision.
this to me doesn't look like a year to achieve that so you may have to tread water dangerous for you coaching rep. -
While the situation with Razor is not ideal, hopefully the candidates can take more confidence in things sans Robinson and should therefore be more professional.
But it does put the ball firmly in the court of the applicants
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I think/hope there are some maybes on the edge of selection who might excite potential candidates. But I agree the tour list is a bit daunting. I think Joe for one with his family needs would hate it..
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@Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks 2026:
@allblackfan2 Nope, not what I said.
A robot cannot possibly understand a battle scarred and passionate AB fan.
I read stuff in other places but there is nothing else that I have found that even comes close to this joint.
Long live the Fern.
I agree re ‘ long live the fern’ , and whilst a robot doesnt inherently embody the same passion and experiences as human sports fans (notably AB fans) they can produce data sourced from multiple sources - both shit and quality sources and everything in between. I have my perspective on the use of AI and you have yours - that’s the beauty of places like TSF. -
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris flip side is the players could be gagging for something that actually works and isn't toxic. Those that aren't, are easily replaced.
That is possible too.
Strike while the iron is hot eh, the players will be hurting too and will have a point to prove, coaches would look forward to harnessing that energy.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:
While the situation with Razor is not ideal, hopefully the candidates can take more confidence in things sans Robinson and should therefore be more professional.
But it does put the ball firmly in the court of the applicants
It also puts the ball firmly in the NZR Board's court. Looks like a new page has been turned with Kirk and you'd assume potential coaches would recognise that.
No reason NZR can't allay potential coaches fears and assure they'll be treated professionally from now on
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris flip side is the players could be gagging for something that actually works and isn't toxic. Those that aren't, are easily replaced.
That is possible too.
Strike while the iron is hot eh, the players will be hurting too and will have a point to prove, coaches would look forward to harnessing that energy.
Maybe but you still look as a coach at the schedule, the players you have,The culture,
And do you have the tools given to you to succeed, no restrictions on what you need to do,
On the reverse side of your comment are there bitter players,or players who want more control than they should, is the camp divided.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
On the reverse side of your comment are there bitter players,or players who want more control than they should, is the camp divided.
I'd suggest that's often the case, regardless of the situation. Coaches should be expecting it and have methodology to deal with it, or even better, cut out the poison.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
or even better, cut out the poison.
This is the key for the next coach,great results will come after this is done I believe.
I hope the NZR empowers the coach to be able to do this.The next coach will need to be courageous, especially if the path upward includes culling some older leaders, or downgrading players' roles
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
or even better, cut out the poison.
This is the key for the next coach,great results will come after this is done I believe.
I hope the NZR empowers the coach to be able to do this.The next coach will need to be courageous, especially if the path upward includes culling some older leaders, or downgrading players' roles
Yep we need a tough bugger as coach to make the tough decisions.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:
or even better, cut out the poison.
This is the key for the next coach,great results will come after this is done I believe.
I hope the NZR empowers the coach to be able to do this.Depends where the poison lies - or laid. Key thing is everyone working to a single goal with clear leadership and roles. Read somewhere that Shag had to apologise for being late to a meeting.
No reason you can't have disagreements or arguments provided they are handled in a mature respectful way by all concerned. Seems that's been lacking if what we hear about Robertson dismissing players concerns is true
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@lak said in All Blacks 2026:
I think we need someone to take a hammer to the poisonous environment we find ourselves in, smash the tick tock if you will.
Have zero problems with boot colour, hair-style or social media presence. While we don't want dickheads, we don't want a team of robots, either.
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@Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2026:
Everything from club level up is an issue .Brent Impey when he was chairman even though he’s quite a smart knife in the draw ,listening to him on the between 2 beers podcast only confirmed some of the arrogance coming out of NZ Rugby
He even threw a hail mary when the righting was on the wall for himself suggesting rugby and league clubs should combine
Not the worst idea but what but once again brings into question ,what were you doing in your 7 years as chairman .?Oh yeah, everytime one of those NZR honchos mouths something, you can sense the hubris.
Super competitive environment out there in international rugby land, no room for any smugness or complacency.
You guna end up on your arse with that type of attitude.Not the right thread . . . but I can see it, others might be aghast at the thought of league and union combining.
In Australia I've heard some (official types) comment that both codes should combine at the junior level; the code split coming at high/secondary school.
They have very serious competition from other football codes over there.
At senior level, a lot of rugby clubs are multi-sport now, so in theory, nothing to prevent them fielding teams in both codes.As for the pro-level . . . haha.
Western Force and Perth Bears could easily amalgamate; maybe the girls leading the way, they could almost go full time then.
NZ . . . the Crusaders may as well bite the bullet and make an investment, an NRL franchise is coming to their shiny new stadium.
And . . . I'm guna be the first one to say it . . . a Christchurch team is guna win an NRL premiership before an Auckland team does!!!! -
Hi All, first time post…
Lots of hand wringing but wouldn’t this be a perfect time to come in if you’re a solid, non-Messianic Rennie/JJ/Cotter type, especially if you can get someone like Schmidt in a director-type role? I don’t remember too many times there has been so much low hanging fruit for an all blacks coach. There are difficult problems to solve but there are also things like exit strategy and a coherent kick-chase/receipt... The team looks like it's screaming out to have the attacking structures stripped back to first principles, and a hell of a testing ground to start layering some innovation on top (does it count as innovative to pick players and game plan that match?).Huge mandate, and appetite you would imagine, for cultural change.
