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@george33 said in All Blacks 2026:
So hearing that new coaches will be announced around Thursday week.
That must be 29th January or around that day give or take couple.
That's all Ive got for now.29 January is not that far away...
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@brodean said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
Was what we got actually Crusaders rugby? I don't recall our forward pack being anywhere near as physical as the Saders packs of my memory. I also seem to recall Saders teams playing with more structure, something we can't accuse this latest ABs team of
Thats the point. They were trying to but it failed because the players he picked weren't suited to that approach
Trying to? Then why did he pick looser players instead of DP, and even Hoskins who had both demonstrated they could win playing a forward dominated game? Akira too
They were 'trying to' pick a bunch of players across the country to play their Crusaders style game plan and it failed.
The Crusaders play a high energy game with a strong forward pack and with width. They still scored a lot of tries out wide.
The Blues had success playing a very narrow game. Foster and Schmidt narrowed the game plan up a lot when Schmidt came in.
Robertson said he wanted to move away from that.
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Gee I just had a look at coaching history of JJ, and all the talk he only good with Tony Brown? Best figures were MABs in about 2012 where he has 83% winning record, no Tony Brown , and last year's ABXV .
They kind of make a fallacy of him needing Brown to coach.
And sorry Tim, just saw your post mate, and these figure aren't 20 years out of date,
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@allblackfan2 said in All Blacks 2026:
What about the other John i.e., Plumtree - for one of the assistants roles? I see he has left the Sharks earlier than contracted due to 'personal reflection and intense pressure of the role'. Maybe an assistant coach role may be more suited to him? He's an ex player and has coaching experience outside of NZ.
He already had a go and got sacked. Pur forwards weren't up to much with him there last time.
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@brodean said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
Was what we got actually Crusaders rugby? I don't recall our forward pack being anywhere near as physical as the Saders packs of my memory. I also seem to recall Saders teams playing with more structure, something we can't accuse this latest ABs team of
Thats the point. They were trying to but it failed because the players he picked weren't suited to that approach
Trying to? Then why did he pick looser players instead of DP, and even Hoskins who had both demonstrated they could win playing a forward dominated game? Akira too
They were 'trying to' pick a bunch of players across the country to play their Crusaders style game plan and it failed.
The Crusaders play a high energy game with a strong forward pack and with width. They still scored a lot of tries out wide.
The Blues had success playing a very narrow game. Foster and Schmidt narrowed the game plan up a lot when Schmidt came in.
Robertson said he wanted to move away from that.
He threw the baby out with the bathwater. Ignored the number one rule of rugby, you have to earn the right to go wide.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
Gee I just had a look at coaching history of JJ, and all the talk he only good with Tony Brown? Best figures were MABs in about 2012 where he has 83% winning record, no Tony Brown , and last year's ABXV .
They kind of make a fallacy of him needing Brown to coach.
And sorry Tim, just saw your post mate, and these figure aren't 20 years out of date,
Got 7 years to spre.i think my feeling is the ABXV is a good test of bring a international squad together and running a wee tour.....but the quality of opposition isn't the same as the top job and so having someone like TB would be the little bit extra needed
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
Gee I just had a look at coaching history of JJ, and all the talk he only good with Tony Brown? Best figures were MABs in about 2012 where he has 83% winning record, no Tony Brown , and last year's ABXV .
They kind of make a fallacy of him needing Brown to coach.
And sorry Tim, just saw your post mate, and these figure aren't 20 years out of date,
Got 7 years to spre.i think my feeling is the ABXV is a good test of bring a international squad together and running a wee tour.....but the quality of opposition isn't the same as the top job and so having someone like TB would be the little bit extra needed
I think doing good domestically and with the ABXV can get you to an assistant role, but even then it would be better to have something outside NZ, such as a bit of time with an overseas club or with another international team. Ryan's path looks like a very good one for a specialist (e.g., forward) coach.
For head coaches, I'll admit it is tricky, but I believe that there is a huge difference between season-long rugby and International, especially in a age of WC preparation. I personally wouldn't choose Joseph without Brown, but he has taken a group through a WC cycle.
If it were me, I'd be chasing Rennie with Schmidt as DOR.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2026:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
Gee I just had a look at coaching history of JJ, and all the talk he only good with Tony Brown? Best figures were MABs in about 2012 where he has 83% winning record, no Tony Brown , and last year's ABXV .
They kind of make a fallacy of him needing Brown to coach.
And sorry Tim, just saw your post mate, and these figure aren't 20 years out of date,
Got 7 years to spre.i think my feeling is the ABXV is a good test of bring a international squad together and running a wee tour.....but the quality of opposition isn't the same as the top job and so having someone like TB would be the little bit extra needed
I think doing good domestically and with the ABXV can get you to an assistant role, but even then it would be better to have something outside NZ, such as a bit of time with an overseas club or with another international team. Ryan's path looks like a very good one for a specialist (e.g., forward) coach.
For head coaches, I'll admit it is tricky, but I believe that there is a huge difference between season-long rugby and International, especially in a age of WC preparation. I personally wouldn't choose Joseph without Brown, but he has taken a group through a WC cycle.
If it were me, I'd be chasing Rennie with Schmidt as DOR.
Wasn't Dave GHs Pick for head coach when the NZRU chose Razor? I assume he's old than JJ? Including them both, with JJ as assistant would be good, add TB in 2 years, with the idea that down the track JJ and TB take over
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I remember watching an interview on Stan with Schmidt, He said in the interview he was contracted as Australian coach through to the end of July 2026.
But would stay involved as would Mike Cron as they were employed as consultants through to the WC.
They would take these roles Remotely based in NZ I took it as.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2026:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:
Gee I just had a look at coaching history of JJ, and all the talk he only good with Tony Brown? Best figures were MABs in about 2012 where he has 83% winning record, no Tony Brown , and last year's ABXV .
They kind of make a fallacy of him needing Brown to coach.
And sorry Tim, just saw your post mate, and these figure aren't 20 years out of date,
Got 7 years to spre.i think my feeling is the ABXV is a good test of bring a international squad together and running a wee tour.....but the quality of opposition isn't the same as the top job and so having someone like TB would be the little bit extra needed
I think doing good domestically and with the ABXV can get you to an assistant role, but even then it would be better to have something outside NZ, such as a bit of time with an overseas club or with another international team. Ryan's path looks like a very good one for a specialist (e.g., forward) coach.
For head coaches, I'll admit it is tricky, but I believe that there is a huge difference between season-long rugby and International, especially in a age of WC preparation. I personally wouldn't choose Joseph without Brown, but he has taken a group through a WC cycle.
If it were me, I'd be chasing Rennie with Schmidt as DOR.
And assistants? Leon McDonald and Jason Ryan have been referenced her as likely to be involved, how about a non NZ/SH AC to add to the mix? And if so, would Ronan O'Gara be a suitable option?
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2026:
I remember watching an interview on Stan with Schmidt, He said in the interview he was contracted as Australian coach through to the end of July 2026.
But would stay involved as would Mike Cron as they were employed as consultants through to the WC.
Joe seems a loyal sort of dude I wonder if he would break that contract for an AB or High Performance role.Yep, everything I have heard (or read) from Schmidt, he is stepping back from too much involvement anyway. Much as I like him , think we whistling up tree there.
