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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2026:

    End of the day ,

    Razor might be the wrong coach and ardie might be a dick ,

    Both can be true , doesn’t have to be one or the other .

    If they are both true, the new coach has to straighten him out or kneecap him ASAP. No one should be bigger than the team, no one is expendable. I hope Kirk and the executive know what the dynamics were in the team and give the new coach a mandate to do whatever it takes to clean up the trash

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    have to think someone like Mealamu who is obviously fairly close to things still would be well aware if one or two players are gettign too big for themselves and pull them back into line or be equally as keen to push them out the door if they are contributing to a toxic environment.

    PLenty of these older players will be hurting from the past 5 or 6 years, regardless of Marshall being a twat, the issues he has had in the public eye with Akira stem from his love of the jersey and seeing it devalued, and probably like most, frustrated that someone as talented as Akira never quite turned that final corner and realised the immense talent he possessed.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    I think our selection and development could be improved. The 4 deep a position promise didn't seem to happen in 2 years, I wonder if it is practical.

    Aiming for players to be test level in two positions seemed really ambitious when we coulnd't get most to test level in one!

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    have to think someone like Mealamu who is obviously fairly close to things still would be well aware if one or two players are gettign too big for themselves and pull them back into line or be equally as keen to push them out the door if they are contributing to a toxic environment.

    PLenty of these older players will be hurting from the past 5 or 6 years, regardless of Marshall being a twat, the issues he has had in the public eye with Akira stem from his love of the jersey and seeing it devalued, and probably like most, frustrated that someone as talented as Akira never quite turned that final corner and realised the immense talent he possessed.

    Marshall was quite adamant that Razor was doing an ok job as coach, wasn't he?

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    Let's be clear Hansen and Ryan will be shown the door only contract wise they aren't sacked yet that day is coming.

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    @SammyC said in All Blacks 2026:

    Spoken with all the ignorance I'd expect from someone who actually believes in that shit

    Actually believes in what shit?

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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2026:

    Let's be clear Hansen and Ryan will be shown the door only contract wise they aren't sacked yet that day is coming.

    If there was any truth to Ryan being part of the Sotutu situation I'd happily see him go. We aren't good enough to discount players out of hand that might have turned a corner. And it's not like our forward pack dominated last season. A guy like Cotter or JJ himself could hopefully do that job

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    Re-enactment of coaches from certain places being cool with the extra-curricular activities of certain players

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    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2026:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    have to think someone like Mealamu who is obviously fairly close to things still would be well aware if one or two players are gettign too big for themselves and pull them back into line or be equally as keen to push them out the door if they are contributing to a toxic environment.

    PLenty of these older players will be hurting from the past 5 or 6 years, regardless of Marshall being a twat, the issues he has had in the public eye with Akira stem from his love of the jersey and seeing it devalued, and probably like most, frustrated that someone as talented as Akira never quite turned that final corner and realised the immense talent he possessed.

    Marshall was quite adamant that Razor was doing an ok job as coach, wasn't he?

    Don’t recall, but sounds like he’s moved on https://www.planetrugby.com/news/justin-marshall-warns-all-blacks-that-possible-total-mindset-change-needed-in-super-rugby-pacific-after-scott-robertsons-departure

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    @Mr-Fish the issues im talking about were during fosters time, but he's still had issues with things under Razor, probably less critical due to thier supposed friendship, although you wonder what thier 'mate' conversations were, I mean mates give one another shit about everything, surely that was touched on.

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    @mohikamo said in All Blacks 2026:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2026:

    I'm also sceptical of the statement "They were all told to give bad reviews etc and that’s how it all started."

    I'm hoping our All Blacks have a little more spine than that!

    Very sceptical, all sounds extra "gossipy."
    Like crusaders types sooking and wanting to throw some mud around.

    Which in itself speaks of the clique culture that has infested the environment.

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    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2026:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    have to think someone like Mealamu who is obviously fairly close to things still would be well aware if one or two players are gettign too big for themselves and pull them back into line or be equally as keen to push them out the door if they are contributing to a toxic environment.

    PLenty of these older players will be hurting from the past 5 or 6 years, regardless of Marshall being a twat, the issues he has had in the public eye with Akira stem from his love of the jersey and seeing it devalued, and probably like most, frustrated that someone as talented as Akira never quite turned that final corner and realised the immense talent he possessed.

    Marshall was quite adamant that Razor was doing an ok job as coach, wasn't he?

    I seem to recall Marshall becoming increasingly critical of the way the ABs were performing. But he drew the line at criticising Razor. Goldie and to a lesser extent Mils were also increasingly vocal. I suppose they weren't overly surprised when he got the chop, although they acted like they were. Maybe because no one had ever been fired mid cycle before?

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2026:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    have to think someone like Mealamu who is obviously fairly close to things still would be well aware if one or two players are gettign too big for themselves and pull them back into line or be equally as keen to push them out the door if they are contributing to a toxic environment.

    PLenty of these older players will be hurting from the past 5 or 6 years, regardless of Marshall being a twat, the issues he has had in the public eye with Akira stem from his love of the jersey and seeing it devalued, and probably like most, frustrated that someone as talented as Akira never quite turned that final corner and realised the immense talent he possessed.

    Marshall was quite adamant that Razor was doing an ok job as coach, wasn't he?

    I seem to recall Marshall becoming increasingly critical of the way the ABs were performing. But he drew the line at criticising Razor. Goldie and to a lesser extent Mils were also increasingly vocal. I suppose they weren't overly surprised when he got the chop, although they acted like they were. Maybe because no one had ever been fired mid cycle before?

    I think you've nailed it with the last sentence. Decades of cautious Boards, and then suddenly they axeand the coach mutually agree to end the coach's contract - was clearly quite surprising to all pundits once rumours started swirling that it might actually happen.

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    @Godder said in All Blacks 2026:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2026:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    have to think someone like Mealamu who is obviously fairly close to things still would be well aware if one or two players are gettign too big for themselves and pull them back into line or be equally as keen to push them out the door if they are contributing to a toxic environment.

    PLenty of these older players will be hurting from the past 5 or 6 years, regardless of Marshall being a twat, the issues he has had in the public eye with Akira stem from his love of the jersey and seeing it devalued, and probably like most, frustrated that someone as talented as Akira never quite turned that final corner and realised the immense talent he possessed.

    Marshall was quite adamant that Razor was doing an ok job as coach, wasn't he?

    I seem to recall Marshall becoming increasingly critical of the way the ABs were performing. But he drew the line at criticising Razor. Goldie and to a lesser extent Mils were also increasingly vocal. I suppose they weren't overly surprised when he got the chop, although they acted like they were. Maybe because no one had ever been fired mid cycle before?

    I think you've nailed it with the last sentence. Decades of cautious Boards, and then suddenly they axeand the coach mutually agree to end the coach's contract - was clearly quite surprising to all pundits once rumours started swirling that it might actually happen.

    Another of Razor's unwanted firsts for the ABs

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    @nostrildamus 4 deep as a concept is fine.

    But it should be based on knowing your top 15-23 first, ensuring they play enough together to have a rock solid team dynamic and then, and only then deepening the pool.

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:

    Left field thought after reading this post: if we wanted someone in the camp who has been exceptional in recent memory, a heap of mana, high standards to set an example for others, no nonsense to keep people in line... I wonder how much coaching Ma'a has been getting done between his playing appearances?

    Probably not as much as he had intended!
    But if you could extend that to potential manager, Thorn, Mealamu etc might be worth a look.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2026:

    I'm happy with his legacy as the best ever AB 12 with extraordinary longevity.

    He joined them as a trainee coach I thought, he wanted that pathway...

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    I think our selection and development could be improved. The 4 deep a position promise didn't seem to happen in 2 years, I wonder if it is practical.

    Aiming for players to be test level in two positions seemed really ambitious when we coulnd't get most to test level in one!

    Actually that might be a good one to aim for and three for some positions (7, 10) for example..

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    I want us to develop specialists again. A bunch of same same players has been part of our problem

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