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    zedsdeadbaby
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    On Ma’a - I don’t think he’d work with Jamie Joseph, not sure the stint at the Highlanders ended that well. But I’d love to have him involved somewhere. I remember Wayne Smith praising his tactical brain.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2026:

    @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @george33 said in All Blacks 2026:

    Let's be clear Hansen and Ryan will be shown the door only contract wise they aren't sacked yet that day is coming.

    Would they be for sure. Jamie Joseph has worked with Hansen at Japan, though chances are he will go.

    Do we know how well Joseph and Hansen got on? That they’ve worked together previously doesn’t automatically mean if Joseph gets the job he’ll want to keep Hansen on. We’ve all worked with people in the past we thought were fantastic, useless and everywhere in between.

    I think I’m right in saying Hansen had a different role when with Japan so at the very least, his role might change if he’s lucky enough to still be working with the All Blacks.

    If the rumours are true, and players and coaches alike didn't like him, he's a dead man walking

    If rumours are right ? I will admit, I was being nasty and wondering if Robertson made the comment that Hansen was doing all the coaching to remove blame off himself!
    Would be a nice dastardly deed when you have stuffed up!

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    #3283

    So which coaches are interested in being the next ABs boss and whose not?

    This is what I have got:

    Interested: Jamie Joseph, Dave Rennie, Vern Cotter

    Not: Tony Brown, Clayton McMillan, Eddie Jones, Warren Gatland, Ian Foster, Steve Hansen, Wayne Smith

    Not clear: John Mitchell. Robbie Deans, Ronan O'Gara, Jacques Nienaber

    Not available until August and unclear: Joe Schmidt

    I doubt they will go back to Mitchell or Deans or go with a non-NZ coach so it's looking like a straight fight between Joseph, Rennie and Cotter.

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    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2026:

    I haven’t read the last week or so posts. But this is what I’ve heard. Still rumours but from a very reliable source.
    I don’t think the Dalton rumours are true.
    Ardie is the main instigator behind all of it.
    Not sure if it’s well known in the hurricanes area. But ardie likes to play around. Something happened on tour somewhere and razor found out. He gave him a right serve and Ardie took offence to it and it all started from there. Ardie only hangs with who ardie wants to hang with. Kava session in his room and no outsiders. They were all told to give bad reviews etc and that’s how it all started.
    How it led to the sacking I don’t know.
    Again just rumours and may not be true.

    I can’t remember what video it was on, maybe one of Ardie’s vlogs or an AB vlog on YouTube, but there was footage of him leading a kava session with a group (majority were pacific island boys) so that part definitely checks out.

    Fuck that shit if true. Who does Ardie think he is? The messiah or something? He’s no Riley Higgins.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:

    Fuck that shit if true. Who does Ardie think he is? The messiah or something? He’s no Riley Higgins.

    even Riley Higgins may have trouble living up to the future legend that is Riley Higgins..

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:

    Fuck that shit if true. Who does Ardie think he is? The messiah or something? He’s no Riley Higgins.

    even Riley Higgins may have trouble living up to the future legend that is Riley Higgins..

    In all seriousness though, if all of this is true Ardie obviously thinks he’s more important than he actually is. Maybe he was peeved that he wasn’t made captain initially, especially considering he had to step in more often than not.

    In hindsight when you look back when Razor became coach, the best thing he probably could have done to unite the players was make Ardie captain….. but he didn’t and Ardie obviously holds a grudge.

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    #3287

    @Canes4life the video was posted in here by @pakman

    Edit: think it's around 3:34

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:

    Fuck that shit if true. Who does Ardie think he is? The messiah or something? He’s no Riley Higgins.

    even Riley Higgins may have trouble living up to the future legend that is Riley Higgins..

    In all seriousness though, if all of this is true Ardie obviously thinks he’s more important than he actually is. Maybe he was peeved that he wasn’t made captain initially, especially considering he had to step in more often than not.

    In hindsight when you look back when Razor became coach, the best thing he probably could have done to unite the players was make Ardie captain….. but he didn’t and Ardie obviously holds a grudge.

    The captaincy is an interesting one. I don't know how SB was seen by players, but it seems to me he wasn't the best choice and Razor should have reviewed/changed it. But if half the rumour are true then perhaps Ardie wasn't the right option either! And not sure what the not going to Codie's 100th was really about because he would have been my other suggestion!

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    Just to add gasoline to the fire and I know he isn't in the ideal position but my other choice for future captain (if he can stay relatively injury-free) is a back! And worse, the C* word!

    *Cane.

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    @junior said in All Blacks 2026:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2026:

    It's hardly news that a number of All Blacks over the years have enjoyed having a few roots away from home on a tour.

    And I've met pious, religious types who turn out to be into crazy stuff nocturnally.

    The bit about a player being a Machiavellian genius and manipulating twenty other people against the coach is the part I find significantly harder to believe.

    That would also imply that Ardie's kava sessions are more open and inclusive than has been suggested.

    The video I saw had Ardie leading a few PI blokes doing their PI thing with Jordie and Will J clapping along with them. Didn't look cliquey to me,

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @junior said in All Blacks 2026:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2026:

    It's hardly news that a number of All Blacks over the years have enjoyed having a few roots away from home on a tour.

    And I've met pious, religious types who turn out to be into crazy stuff nocturnally.

    The bit about a player being a Machiavellian genius and manipulating twenty other people against the coach is the part I find significantly harder to believe.

    That would also imply that Ardie's kava sessions are more open and inclusive than has been suggested.

    The video I saw had Ardie leading a few PI blokes doing their PI thing with Jordie and Will J clapping along with them. Didn't look cliquey to me,

    And the big Dutchmam

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    Just to add gasoline to the fire and I know he isn't in the ideal position but my other choice for future captain (if he can stay relatively injury-free) is a back! And worse, the C* word!

    *Cane.

    Roigard…?

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    @junior said in All Blacks 2026:

    @dnomyar said in All Blacks 2026:

    @nostrildamus 4 deep as a concept is fine.

    But it should be based on knowing your top 15-23 first, ensuring they play enough together to have a rock solid team dynamic and then, and only then deepening the pool.

    It also has to be aimed towards something - having four deep for the sake of having four deep is pointless if it doesn't lead to any greater success.

    Exactly. You can only win with the 15 on the field, plus reserves in any given game.

    They should be the priority, not your 4th choice in a position just in case they're needed.

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    @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2026:

    On Ma’a - I don’t think he’d work with Jamie Joseph, not sure the stint at the Highlanders ended that well. But I’d love to have him involved somewhere. I remember Wayne Smith praising his tactical brain.

    Shag recalls a team meeting on tactics when he thought Ma'a looked bored. Ma'a - who generally didn't say much - then got up and explained why the tactics were wrong, and explained on the blackboard what they should do instead. He was 100% right and they changed the tactics as he suggested.

    Not sure if he's the bloke to bet involved, but I'd like to see someone like Kevvy or Whitelock around the team.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @junior said in All Blacks 2026:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2026:

    It's hardly news that a number of All Blacks over the years have enjoyed having a few roots away from home on a tour.

    And I've met pious, religious types who turn out to be into crazy stuff nocturnally.

    The bit about a player being a Machiavellian genius and manipulating twenty other people against the coach is the part I find significantly harder to believe.

    That would also imply that Ardie's kava sessions are more open and inclusive than has been suggested.

    The video I saw had Ardie leading a few PI blokes doing their PI thing with Jordie and Will J clapping along with them. Didn't look cliquey to me,

    And the big Dutchmam

    Yep. Saw that as inviting people in and breaking down barriers than anything else. May be wrong.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @junior said in All Blacks 2026:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2026:

    It's hardly news that a number of All Blacks over the years have enjoyed having a few roots away from home on a tour.

    And I've met pious, religious types who turn out to be into crazy stuff nocturnally.

    The bit about a player being a Machiavellian genius and manipulating twenty other people against the coach is the part I find significantly harder to believe.

    That would also imply that Ardie's kava sessions are more open and inclusive than has been suggested.

    The video I saw had Ardie leading a few PI blokes doing their PI thing with Jordie and Will J clapping along with them. Didn't look cliquey to me,

    'Thiiiissss littttle light of miiiiineeee'......

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    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @junior said in All Blacks 2026:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2026:

    It's hardly news that a number of All Blacks over the years have enjoyed having a few roots away from home on a tour.

    And I've met pious, religious types who turn out to be into crazy stuff nocturnally.

    The bit about a player being a Machiavellian genius and manipulating twenty other people against the coach is the part I find significantly harder to believe.

    That would also imply that Ardie's kava sessions are more open and inclusive than has been suggested.

    The video I saw had Ardie leading a few PI blokes doing their PI thing with Jordie and Will J clapping along with them. Didn't look cliquey to me,

    'Thiiiissss littttle light of miiiiineeee'......

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

    @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2026:

    On Ma’a - I don’t think he’d work with Jamie Joseph, not sure the stint at the Highlanders ended that well. But I’d love to have him involved somewhere. I remember Wayne Smith praising his tactical brain.

    Shag recalls a team meeting on tactics when he thought Ma'a looked bored. Ma'a - who generally didn't say much - then got up and explained why the tactics were wrong, and explained on the blackboard what they should do instead. He was 100% right and they changed the tactics as he suggested.

    Not sure if he's the bloke to bet involved, but I'd like to see someone like Kevvy or Whitelock around the team.

    That was Wayne.

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    A grouping of Stern, Joe and Jase would have a lot going for it.

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    This definitely rules Sir Wayne Smith out:

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/former-all-blacks-coach-sir-wayne-smith-is-leaving-nz-rugby-for-a-new-overseas-role/premium/VQTSMU2GMFGFTB4LDEFN5M4WRY/

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